tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post5712650896885956230..comments2008-09-06T08:23:59.362-04:00Chezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06125538523345637439deusexmalcontent@gmail.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-66205653714867065072008-09-06T08:08:00.000-04:002008-09-06T08:08:00.000-04:00While I agree in principle with everything you said, I think the biggest mistake we can make is to write that bloc off as "idiots." That will just make them want to vote against us all the more. And in truth, they're not idiots. They are very smart about an entirely different world view than we espouse. The best thing we can do is learn to speak their language and persuade them of their errors in reasoning from within that world view. There are ways to interpret scripture that completely turn the "evangelical" view on its head, and if we can get their ear we can persuade them that almost all of the conservative political agenda is not in their interest. But if we keep writing them off as idiots, they'll never listen to us. And as we saw in 2004, there's enough of them that not getting them to listen to us will cost us.Cycho Librarianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12652617400961695172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-59885583038417395192008-09-05T21:36:00.000-04:002008-09-05T21:36:00.000-04:00** The Handmaid’s Tale could come true **<BR/><BR/>Lieberman, McCain and Palin are small human beings, intellectually and morally. But like G. W. Bush, they are all the more dangerous for their dull wits and lack of humane values.<BR/><BR/>McCain's calculated cynicism in selecting ultra-right Palin reveals his lack of judgment and his frivolous nature. He’s no “maverick”. He's mentally unstable.<BR/><BR/>Palin’s religious delusions are ideological madness. Her fundie xianity is a toxic ersatz for policy, domestic and foreign. She is but one aspect of McCain's death wish for America. As minister for suppression of homeland deviance, Palin becomes dictator of morals and values, while McCain plays dictator of external affairs -- without perpetual war the empire will collapse.<BR/><BR/>McCain capitulated to the death impulse of dominionists who now control his party. They want to destroy the Constitution and create a theocratic state. They aim to speed a supposed vengeful return of a mythological being by inciting a nuclear Armageddon in the Middle East as a welcome-home party.<BR/><BR/>That's the Lieberman connection. He's not a mere flack; he's vital to a new holocaust. As "good will" ambassador to Israel’s ultra-conservatives, he’ll do his damnedest to direct God's holy sword of Israel towards a preemptive strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities.<BR/><BR/>Bush-McCain’s nuclear war by proxy is already set at its "fail-safe" points on US aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf.<BR/><BR/>Now, the choice is stark. Keep McCain’s finger off the nuclear trigger. Keep Lieberman from inflaming Israel’s right-wing. Keep Palin from becoming a domionist rising star.<BR/><BR/>Obama offers more than hope. He may be able to save the Republic and the peace of the world. And, you thought Margaret Atwood wrote fiction.<BR/><BR/>bipolar2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-25157990826627024182008-09-05T09:50:00.000-04:002008-09-05T09:50:00.000-04:00I kept waiting for her to scream,<BR/>"WE THE WHITE, GOD-FEARING CITIZENS OF ROCK RIDGE...."<BR/><BR/>we're so fucked...I can't even stand it.Stephenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13501091291040988115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-37073549934845042022008-09-05T06:00:00.000-04:002008-09-05T06:00:00.000-04:00Spot on! It is exactly what has always bothered me about political elections turned popularity contests. But I am afraid that it is not going to be enough. The fact that the smarter minority will see straight through this dog and pony show does not undo the effect on the numerous mouth breathers who eat this stuff up with a spoon. All the people who peaked in high school (when being a moron equaled being cool) and who don't care about what actually goes on outside their tiny little world views as long as the guy (or girl) in charge doesn't use to many big words. You are grossly outnumbered and I'm very afraid we'll see the the guy taking the high road biting the dust for the third time in a row...Pantshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02998634581962000525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-75064901259856682072008-09-04T22:06:00.000-04:002008-09-04T22:06:00.000-04:00I know I'm biased anyway because I'm an Obama/Biden fan, but this was one of the most intelligent things I've read all day. (I should really stop reading comments on certain webpages, especially right around now). Thanks for getting exactly what I am thinking out of my head and onto this site...emnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-71318204533223074512008-09-04T21:41:00.000-04:002008-09-04T21:41:00.000-04:00I still can't get over the line,<BR/><BR/>"She's George W. Bush with tits"<BR/><BR/>Fucking perfect!RKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-31561316390145647102008-09-04T20:13:00.000-04:002008-09-04T20:13:00.000-04:00As far as the experience she has (Or actually doesn't) I don't really care, I don't want anyone in the white house who believes the end of the world is something that should be looked forward too with wide eyed anticipation. I don't believe in god, and I don't think his armies will come down from heaven to take all the believers home. However if you have a position of power and your working for the end of the world, I think that's something that should be up for discussion.Michaelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04599922227187508087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-12508810601250860502008-09-04T19:03:00.000-04:002008-09-04T19:03:00.000-04:00aaron x-<BR/>This is one of the lamest things I have read. Drug pushers? Then I guess that the shots of Democrats Hillary and Barack imbibing spirits during the Dems primary is them pushing a drug agenda? As far as implying that Sarah Palin is for meth, because of her community, I wonder what the drug use was like in Barack Obama's neighborhood in Chicago? Perhaps we should then conclude that gangs and crack will be part of an Obama White House. This is ridiculous. I thought we were about elevating things, and not being stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-75524097918202390382008-09-04T18:45:00.000-04:002008-09-04T18:45:00.000-04:00Chez: A+ blog today brother...so well said. Keep the fire lit the next 60 days! We need this win at all costs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-5001328290443732842008-09-04T17:46:00.000-04:002008-09-04T17:46:00.000-04:00Sarah Palin watches "The Flintstones" and sees a History Channel documentary.namronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-27737678615320710172008-09-04T17:28:00.000-04:002008-09-04T17:28:00.000-04:00<A HREF="http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2008/09/cindy-mccains-300000-outfit.html" REL="nofollow">Cindy McCain's $300,000 Outfit</A> <BR/><BR/>And where did Cindy McCain get the money to buy that dress, and all those hundreds of millions her family made, that's right folks distributing the drug of alcohol throughout America. Every dime that John and Cindy McCain have right now, was made through selling drugs, legal drugs perhaps, but drugs nonetheless. They are drug dealers who prey upon the poorest people of America in order to get their Black Centurion American Express cards and private jets, and multimillion dollar homes, whose numbers they're not completely sure about.<BR/><BR/>Do we really want to put drug pushers in the White House, I imagine if they were Black and wore hip-hop clothes and sold crack, all the so-called conservatives would be condemning them for the parasites that they are.<BR/><BR/>But a vote for John McCain is a vote for drug dealing predators who have done more damage to the our communities throughout US history, then all the illicit drugs and drug dealers combined. For as you all know, alcohol is the Devils lubricant.<BR/><BR/>And now, low and behold, Sarah Palin hails from a drug infested community, apparently her hometown of Wasilla being a hotbed of methamphetamine production. <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/030805/sta_20050308002.shtml" REL="nofollow">Troopers dub Mat-Su area the meth capital of Alaska</A> <BR/><I><BR/>[The Matanuska-Susitna area is the methamphetamine capital of Alaska, according to Alaska State Troopers.<BR/><BR/>In 2003, authorities uncovered nine meth labs in the area. Last year, the number increased to 42, said Kyle Young, an investigator with the troopers who works with the Mat-Su narcotics team.] </I><BR/><BR/>You know what they say about birds of a feather. Now we know what John McCain and Sarah Palin have in mind for America, a <B>REDNECK REVOLUTION</B>, with a case of <B>BUSH </B>in every refrigerator and a hit of meth in every pipe.<BR/><BR/>Down with the backwoods redneck drug pushers ticket!<BR/><BR/>PS Pat and Bay Buchanan love the redneck revolution. :-)Aaron Xhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01546607860268255593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-28141520824894228622008-09-04T17:25:00.000-04:002008-09-04T17:25:00.000-04:00Has anyone considered trying to drum up another Crusade? This could be the perfect way to thin the herd of overly religious, "dumb and proud of it" nut jobs. They get their Armageddon/Rapture they're so fond of waiting for and their Allah worshiping counterparts get to take out their insanity on an equally irrational invading force and can get their hands on those 72 virgins that much quicker. Everybody wins!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-70422417516161461192008-09-04T17:16:00.000-04:002008-09-04T17:16:00.000-04:00It's fun to see you like this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-81056016332960297952008-09-04T16:56:00.000-04:002008-09-04T16:56:00.000-04:00Chez, thanks for the clarification.<BR/><BR/>If you let your anger burn to bright, the heat turns eyes away from the light.<BR/><BR/>Give the other side a way to discredit an inch, and they'll ride it for a mile.Ikehttp://occamsrazr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-78826627631448679842008-09-04T16:41:00.000-04:002008-09-04T16:41:00.000-04:00After the speech last night I thought they were going to start crowd surfing the baby as a celebration of pro-life, when what it really was a CHOICE. I agree, its the peak of the dumbing of America that has gone for too long. In the last 2 elections they have appealed to the lowest common denominator, with no desire in raising the bar. This has got to end.Richardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-57019984825567525232008-09-04T16:17:00.000-04:002008-09-04T16:17:00.000-04:00<B>When I first heard that McCain had chosen a woman as a running mate, I thought to myself <I>"Wow. That’s smart."<BR/></I>And I suppose, in a way, it was a smart decision, but like some many other decisions made by the republican party, it was for the wrong reasons. That is what stood out most to me in Palin's speech.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Jesus Christ on the fucking cross, what a fucking mess we would have if those two won. I'm scared. Really.<BR/><BR/>I enjoyed your post.</B>kcwww.myspace.com/androg1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-61428001958593088542008-09-04T16:00:00.000-04:002008-09-04T16:00:00.000-04:00This was an amazing piece, Chez.Marinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-77524358195743994052008-09-04T15:30:00.000-04:002008-09-04T15:30:00.000-04:00Excellent post, chez.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-51886615686634703592008-09-04T15:27:00.000-04:002008-09-04T15:27:00.000-04:00Please, frightened people (and I'm one of you!) visit the website 270towin.com<BR/><BR/>The electoral college is a tricky bastard... we can lose this thing-- smart, dumb or just dumbstruck. We forget the lessons of the 2000 election at our own peril.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-43304763024789849412008-09-04T15:22:00.000-04:002008-09-04T15:22:00.000-04:00Well you're not part of the choir, now are you?Chezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06125538523345637439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-53421009518369677792008-09-04T15:15:00.000-04:002008-09-04T15:15:00.000-04:00'Ridiculous, over the top fear-mongering?' A very ironic phrase, but one I doubt that the choir you are preaching to will pick up on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-1877126611683006532008-09-04T15:14:00.000-04:002008-09-04T15:14:00.000-04:00Run don't walk to rent Idiocracy. Clip of opening:<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1sE1E3z7jUTina in Texasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-9378194624360436412008-09-04T15:07:00.000-04:002008-09-04T15:07:00.000-04:00I couldn't watch it last night. I was chicken. A chicken who couldn't watch the chicken littles, all screaming about judgment and the sky falling and the rest. Because I underestimated Bush eight and then four years ago.<BR/><BR/>But oh, Lord, is the Harriet Miers of all VP choices a strange duck. I was reared with these people, these evangelicals, the thumpers. My atheist partner is always trying to tell me that everyone's got good in them, but he hasn't looked in the eyes of the godly and seen the snarl of Satanic hatred.<BR/><BR/>I don't think they're dumb. They're scared--and power-hungry: a damning combination that's fucked the world more than once. Plus, they're right. (Well, they think they are.) So add up the three and you have snarl.<BR/><BR/>I don't think Obama is the be-all-and-end-all. But I no longer believe in the long-term life of these United States. I just want to make sure I'm in the right (aka, left) half when it breaks apart.Mark Scarbroughhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10817846008299545511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-52535624091733395852008-09-04T15:05:00.000-04:002008-09-04T15:05:00.000-04:00Well, since so many folks want to be all serious in their posts, I supposed it is up to me.<BR/><BR/>I side with...*attempts best Donald Gibb impression*<BR/><BR/>NNNEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSS!!!!!!!<BR/><BR/>Seriously, this election is sounding more and more like a bad '80s teen comedy.<BR/><BR/>And this just occurred to me: isn't the whole talking point about Palin supposedly having more "executive experience" than the others run counter to the idea that smarts and knowledge are bad things?<BR/><BR/>Not saying it is a revolutionary thought, mind you, just that it just came to me.Vermillionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16784952999463984812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28957011.post-71747657425346652472008-09-04T14:55:00.000-04:002008-09-04T14:55:00.000-04:00I would say that, after reading this, I love you but that would be <I>dumb</I> so I am going with "I love <I>your writing</I> and will be voting for Obama."Adrienne Saiahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12622762778296656449noreply@blogger.com