Friday, July 20, 2012

Quote of the Day

"You know what really gets me, as a Christian, is to see the ongoing attacks on Judeo-Christian beliefs, and then some senseless crazy act of terror like this takes place. People say ... where was God in all of this? We've threatened high school graduation participations, if they use God's name, they're going to be jailed ... I mean that kind of stuff. Where was God? What have we done with God? We don't want him around. I kind of like his protective hand being present."

-- Rep. Louie Gohmert of Texas, responding to last night's shooting in Aurora, CO

I swear I didn't want to even bring politics into it this early, but the way things are these days -- with assholes like Gohmert immediately putting the blame for senseless, inexcusable violence on our lack of faith in Jesus -- there's just no way around it. I guess this was something I forgot to mention in my previous post on this subject, because this kind of blame-the-victim thing goes way beyond simple politicization. It borders on sociopathy.

Speaking of blaming the victim, Gohmert goes on to make an argument you just knew would be coming in short order:

"It does make me wonder, with all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying a gun that could have stopped this guy more quickly?"

Because if Louie Gohmert had been there with his trusty pistol at his side, he would've dropped that killer in his tracks, I'll tell you what. Bullshit. Gohmert's another pretend tough guy from Texas who, armed or not, would've pissed his pants and climbed over small children to get out of that theater once the shooting started. He's a pussy -- and nothing more.


kushiro said...

God was there. He glanced over, chuckled, and then went back to texting.

J. Dack said...

Sorry Louie, God was busy not existing.

Seriously, these people worship a deity who lets innocent murder happen because he's butthurt over not having enough facebook friends?

Tuba Terry said...

I've spent a lot of time and money at that theater over the years. I'm not as close to it as I once was, but it's still close enough to be a good backup for me if a closer one is sold out.

Anyway, fuck this guy. Typical "If I had a gun..." bullshit. If he had a gun on him, even if he didn't run away pissing himself, he'd be risking even more lives in the chaos.

"If you outlaw guns, only outlaws have guns." Yeah, and if you don't restrict guns, you get drunkards and power-trippers with far more power than they deserve, leaving the rest of us stranded somewhere between the OK Corral and George Zimmerman.

Even more on point though - there were 4 active-duty military personnel injured there, and they didn't stop him either. As fucked in the head as this shooter is/was, he planned the hell out of it and caught everyone by surprise.

I'm not gonna lie, I've been fantasizing about being macho superhero tough guy Marine badass all day, but I'm sure as fuck not going to pretend like it would have happened any differently or any better.

Bea Pants said...

Yes a gunfight in a crowded theater CERTAINLY would have lowered the death toll.

As Americans we have a hard time accepting that sometimes bad things happen to good people and there's not necessarily anyone to blame (other than the shooter, obviously) and no way to predict/prevent it. Granted the info is still coming in but it doesn't look like this guy was on anyone's radar to be a killer. It's awful. I hurt for the friends and family of those lost. But a lot of pre-emptive and likely useless blame helps no one.

Also, if they start putting metal detectors in theaters I'm saving all the money on movie tickets and popcorn and investing in a really awesome home theater system.

Eric said...

I was wondering how long it would take some shithead to ask why there wasn't some gun-toting retard in the audience willing and able to return fire in a darkened movie theatre lit only by the dim silver light reflected from the movie screen, the exit signs, and the flashes from the murderer's own weapons. Because, yeah, that would be fucking brilliant, whipping out your own sidearm and shooting wildly into the darkness. I can't see a single fucking thing that could possibly go wrong with that brilliant reaction. It sounds just fucking flawless it's just such a goddamn shame there wasn't some rocket scientist with a pistol to blaze away in a dark, crowded movie theatre hoping at least one of the things he happened to hit was the other guy doing the same fucking thing Works for me.

I don't think I would have guessed it would be fucking Representative Gohmert, but I guess I should have: that's about par for his Krazy Golf course.

Anonymous said...

There were apparently at least 2 active duty members of the military in the audience.

So... somehow, this dickless dude would be able to handle the situation better than 2 guys whose sole position of employment is to react to and neutralize scenarios which are substantially like this situation. Two guys that were unable to do shitdoodles.

I'm tired of this crap.

Drew said...

More often than not mass murders invoke that they're "doing God's work" when they go on their bullet binge.

I'm not sure if the shooter in Colorado was religious not or felt he was shooting for Jesus but to say that we're getting what we deserve because we don't have prayer in school is nothing short of maniacal laced with patronizing hubris.

Izar Talon said...

Ummm, yeaah... WHO said "Where was God?" when this happened? I sure as Hell didn't hear or read about anyone asking that question.

The only people who I see asking that question are these blowhard assholes who then proceed to TELL us why God wasn't there, usually saying that it was because the victims did something wrong.

And all of the people who pointed out the idiocy of starting a shootout inside a dark movie theater full of panicked people? Congratulations, each one of you is more intelligent than the Congressman from Texas.

JohnF said...

On the plus side, this might be the first time one of these right-wingers actually called a white person "a terrorist." I never thought we'd see that.

OK, that's a pretty small bit of silver lining.

Anonymous said...

God dammit, Texas.

Benoit from Ottawa said...

Let's not be stupid about this "God" thing, anyway:

An all-seeing, all-knowing, omnichronistic god would not intervene at any point, because an intervention would aim to correct something.

But the creation of an all-seeing, knowing, etc. god requires no correction.

QED, damn it.

T.Olsen said...

The blame-the-victim premise here assumes Gohmert is referring to an absence of God in the movie-goers lives. Another interpretation would be he is referring to an absence of God in the shooter's life. Which makes a lot more sense, at least from a Christian point of view. This is not to say that having a religion, exempts you from being a nutter, or that nutters won't continue to do things and claim they were directed by God. Rather Only that practicing a faith that requires you to love absolutely everyone significantly decreases the risk of committing premeditated mass murder.

ZIRGAR said...

I really hate to stray of subject and resort to anything that's remotely ad hominem (ha ha, just kidding), but is this Gohmert guy even capable of taking a photo where he doesn't look like some inbred caricature of Elmer Fudd?

Anonymous said...

This reminds me of the time I couldn't spend the night at this religious kid's house unless I agreed to go to their boring Presbyterian church services the next day. Anyhoozles, nice blog!

marija said...

Maybe it was because I was really excited about this movie or because I scored the tickets for the premiere night, but this massacre has really shocked me even though I live on another continent - Europe. I have been reading a lot of your press on the issue and I have to say... Man, I'm glad I'm over here.
My country was in a war 20 years ago (for the record - Croatia) and there are still a lot of weapons lying around. These usually get into public focus once a kid finds them at home in his father's closet and decides to enact a scene from a movie or to teach some other kid a lesson. The only thing that has been working is a systematic education on the issue and the drives for people to submit their weapons to the local police station without penalty that had been running every few years. And I cannot stress enough how people living in a country which experienced war directly wince at guns and people having them. Maybe a part of the reason why Americans are SO gun crazy is that 99% of them haven't experienced war directly, people dying and killing each other.
I don't want to live in a world where regular people have guns, that's the world we have outgrown some 150 years ago. The social contract is still in place and there is no room for this Hobbesian nightmare, person against person, gun against gun. If the governments decide to turn on their people, there's pretty much nothing you can do with your gun against a well trained army. In the meantime, there's a pretty good chance that your gun will kill someone - you or your kid or a third person. There's the police, there's the army to handle weapons and given the relatively low levels of violent crimes these days (compared to, say 20 years ago), there's really no reason for ordinary citizens to have guns at home. If they want to own guns for sport, these can be issued with a licence and a passed psych evaluation. This is how it's mostly regulated in Europe and aside from psychos like Breivik, gun violence is rare. I would argue that once a country makes weapons illegal, it's much easier to trace the existing ones, the routes they arrive through in a country, smugglers, etc. Given the window into the American psyche I have glanced through in the past 3 days, I'm guessing this sounds like blasphemy, but I have to say that the opinions casually and frequently espoused in some of the forums (Slate, Huffington Post) would make a European wince in terror and shock.

L. said...

Dear Louie,

God was the same place he is when babies get cancer and people rape little kids. And when someone lets spazzy little wieners like you buy guns.

CNNfan said...

Handling a gun requires training to learn all about gun safety, which is number one when handling any gun.

At a firing range, the bullet flys down the range super sonic at the target. So, a gun may almost feel like a hole puncher, punching holes in the target a hundred yards down range.

When you go for a hunting license you learn and you have to pass a test all about gun safety and how to hit vital organs, so the animal goes down quickly.

Hypothetically, a car driving a hundred miles an hour on the sidewalk through a busy city may be far more dangerous than a gun, but we have plenty of cars on our streets. Like cars, guns simply need proper training and licensing to make them safe, so they can do a lot of good in our society.