Thursday, June 28, 2012

Quote of the Day


"Just because a couple people on the Supreme Court declare something to be ‘constitutional’ does not make it so. The whole thing remains unconstitutional."

-- Talking Monkey Rand Paul

Of all the statements being made in connection with today's historic Supreme Court ruling on the ACA, this for me is the reaction that's the most salient -- because it so perfectly sums up the right-wing mindset and illustrates where their blind outrage comes from and how it will continue to manifest itself. It's all there: the complete ignorance as to how our government works; the arrogant belief that any reality that challenges conservative demands, be it a decision by the voters or the highest court in the land, can be casually dismissed as illegitimate; the unwavering obstinacy and vow to fight on no matter how many times they're told that they can't have it their way.

This battle isn't over for them. It'll never be. Not until they're satisfied on this issue and every other one and until they're given back complete control of our government. This is simply the way the Republicans are these days. Give them what they want and no one gets hurt. A complete refusal to accept any way other than their own -- anyone other than themselves -- as valid and legal.

I'd say that it's like dealing with hijackers or hostage-takers -- but it's really more like dealing with children.

19 comments:

VOTAR said...

You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? Perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility. I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.

Steven D Skelton said...

I guess those that disagreed with Dred Scott or Plessy were a bunch of children as well?

Steven D Skelton said...

"You can't just make up that language and decide that that's called a tax increase,"

~ BHO 2009

guess he's a child as well

FabMax said...

So, like a virus?

Drew said...

VOTAR...I do believe that is quote of perfection for this post.

Chez said...

Really? Knock it off with the horseshit false equivalence please, Skelton.

Steven D Skelton said...

And this is different because....

Either the Supreme Court is the final arbiter and we should all agree with them or it's not. You can't have it both ways.

firedmyass said...

Rand Paul is the best-dressed toddler I've ever seen.

JohnF said...

Steven-
All Supreme Court decisions are not created equal.
Dred Scott v. Sandford and Plessy v. Ferguson were wrong then and they're wrong now. Those decisions were not just wrong, they were evil. They were cruel and inhumane.

This was a decision about the best way to take care of sick people. No matter how much the right wants to frame this as the destruction of liberty and the rise of Communist tyranny in America, it's just a bill to help people get insurance. That's about as decent and humane as legislation gets.

Matt said...

Of course, there is also this. I had to check twice to be sure it wasn't from The Onion.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/people-moving-to-canada-because-of-obamacare

Anonymous said...

By definition, if a bunch of (like five) people on the supreme court say that something is constitutional, then that thing is, in fact constitutional. It might be stupid or might completely lack a moral. foundation, or might be profoundly childish. The 2000 recount decision was all of those things. It was constitutional because the court said so. That's what the supreme court gets paid to do.

Anonymous said...

On a totally unrelated note; SDS, one might assume, based on your initials and commentary that you are still super pissed about what happened in the 60s

Chez said...

The problem runs so much deeper than the opposition to this one decision, Skelton, and you know it. And as the above comment states well, it has nothing to do with saying, "I think the decision is wrong," and everything to do with saying, "The Supreme Court's decision doesn't count and the law is still unconstitutional because I say it is, la la la la NOT LISTENING!" These people simply dismiss as illegitimate, out of hand, anything or anyone that goes against their worldview. President Obama isn't just a president whose policy they disagree with -- he's an impostor who has no legal right to be there, despite the will of the electorate. This Supreme Court decision isn't simply bad -- it's meaningless and a trampling of the constitution and therefore (wait for it) armed rebellion may now be required to make things right.

Steven D Skelton said...

anon 6:04

Why would you take time to type out something so far from clever, not at all funny nor relevant to anything being discussed here?

Benoit from Ottawa said...

"The Supreme Court isn't the boss of me!"

Nathan said...

Just because a couple of people in Kentucky think Rand Paul should be a U.S. Senator does not make it so. He remains unelected (by millions of people who have no say in the matter, but...)

Chez said...

Brilliant.

warrenbishop said...

@VOTAR: Just read your comment. I think that made my morning.

JohnF said...

Steven-

It would be a lot easier to take the dissenting voices seriously if I thought there was any conviction behind them. This is pure partisan hackery, and I'm sure you recognize that.

When people dissented the Dred Scott or Plessy decisions, they did so with conviction. Because they believed those decisions were dead wrong.

When Mitt Romney complains about this ruling, when it's the same fucking healthcare system he implemented in Massachusetts, how can anyone take that seriously?

They're not complaining because they think it's wrong, they're complaining because Obama did it. That's a crucial distinction.