Tuesday, May 15, 2012

When the Right Is (Not Necessarily) Right

So if you're a regular reader you know that last week I posted a piece here and over at the Daily Banter mothership that defended Bill O'Reilly and Bernie Goldberg's position -- though not O'Reilly and Goldberg themselves -- on a possible double-standard when it comes to the media's reporting on crimes in which there may be a racial component. Chances are you also know that it started a minor debate in the comment section of the full post here between myself and Bob Cesca -- as well as a couple of other people.

Well, Bob's now posted a lengthy response to my piece over at Banter -- one that takes a different view than mine, which is of course fine as we don't agree on everything, nor should we.

Give it a read.

The Daily Banter: Black-on-White Crime and the Reasons for a Double-Standard/5.15.12


Mozglubov said...

I'm going to post a comment here since I don't really want to register to comment on the Daily Banter.

My only issue with what Bob Cesca says is one of his paragraph conclusions: "The opposite — the minority oppressing the majority — is impossible." That is simply not true; history is full of examples of minorities oppressing majorities (South Africa during apartheid is a prime example, but one could also cite Japanese rule of Manchuria and North Korea prior to World War II). That in no way nullifies Cesca's overall point that it is the imbalance in general power structure which ought to frame the debate, and in this particular case it is certainly the majority which is in the position of power over the minority, but to claim that the opposite is de facto impossible is false.

Mozglubov said...

That last comment should have just said Korea... I'm not sure why my brain slipped 'North' into it.

Kyle said...

To add to your list of counterexamples of the minority oppressing the majority, one need look no further than the US Senate...

J. Dack said...

Well, I read the piece, but I'm going to comment here because I'm not in the mood to connect another site to fucking facebook (god that's annoying.)

All I really have to say is that I disagree with him, because the other incident didn't get "different" coverage, it got zero coverage. An op-ed isn't coverage.

And why oh why oh why do people keep saying the Trayvon case is white-on-black violence? That Zimmerman dude is not white. His picture makes that fairly obvious to anyone who isn't HOPING he's white so they can fuel their rage engines further.

Steven D Skelton said...

I'm just going to steal this from a commenter at huffpo.

Cesca is either so woefully uninformed about the case that he shouldn't write about it, or he's a big ol' liar.

1. Zimmerman isn't white. Zimmerman isn't even half white. He's less white than the president.
2. The community isn't a white community. It's gated...but that doesn't make it white. It's a mixed race community.
3. The police did take his gun for forensic examination.

As Bob likes to say, we are all entitled to our own opinions, but not our own facts.