Tuesday, February 14, 2012

Fool Fighter 2: The Reckoning


Hey, kids -- look who took the time to comment on the "Fool Fighter" post from last night:

"Chez:

You contribute to Village Voice and you're calling me an idiot? You know who I work for, right?

Anyway, I think it's an idiotic argument to note that Foo Fighters performed with and were remixed by Deadmau5, neither of which was likely their choice. Labels chose remixers, smart guy. The Academy chooses performers smart guy.

If anything, Grohl's comments were also commentary on the Academy's choice of his stage-mates. Ya dig? Read between the lines, oh un-idiotic one.

That he chose this time, when EDM had its brightest prime time showing ever, to make his point again was no coincidence to me or other observers in the media (Google it).

Finally, I'm an idiot who's been writing about music for 20 years.

-- Dennis Romero"


My response:

Well, hello, Dennis.

Actually, yes, I know exactly who you work for and since I don't contribute to the Voice anymore I think it hardly matters. (Note: LA Weekly is owned by Village Voice Media.) Your column was comically ridiculous since it was obvious to anybody with two brain cells to rub together what Grohl was getting at. You're simply trying to justify the unjustifiable right now because the very legitimate public backlash against your fucking dumb diatribe -- the one you spent however long banging out based entirely on a faulty premise -- has you all in a tizzy.

And I don't give a damn how long you've been writing about music (or how many high-and-mighty "professional" music critics inexplicably saw it your way). You were wrong on this and you're either too stupid or too arrogant to admit it.

Thanks for commenting and have a nice day. : )

(You can read any potential follow-ups in the comment section of the original post -- for now.)

26 comments:

Busayo said...

*sits down with popcorn and booze*

pea said...

I think "wreckoning" is more likely. Please don't make this guy write any more than he has to. Please!

Anonymouse said...

I think I have come to realize that with the advent of instant commenting, that the media has gone away from journalism to outright trolling their target audience.

I mean just look at who they employ. Almost every news piece on ESPN now consists of someone trying to make some retarded argument or justification to say something just to piss readers off and increase page visits.

Same too in any media, such as MSNBC hiring Al Sharpton, Fox News with ex-GOP clowns, and CNN with Nancy Grace. I mean can anyone even attempt to link Edward R Murrow to anything we get exposed to today?

Its all just trolling...

J. Dack said...

What a bunch of horse shit. Anyone who tries to say that white guys with guitars is a dying idea is just showing their opinion on music is worthless, regardless of how long fools have been paying them for it.

And seriously, who uses the word dope any more?

Then he tries to not so subtly insinuate that the mass popularity of electronica means it's superior, by shoving a photo of a few thousand stoned kids at a deadmau5 concert into the article.

Know who else has thousands and thousands of people attend his concerts? Fucking Bieber.

Meanwhile every kid with a copy of Fruity Loops thinks he's a musician now days.

alopecia said...

I read Jonathan Gold in the LA Weekly. The rest of the paper I skim. Stuff like this is why.

Sheriff Bart said...

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

pea said...

Y'know what, though? I love electronic music. LOVE IT. I've got a shit-ton of Steve Lawler & Martin Landsky belly to belly with Foo Fighters, Elvis (both of 'em), and Robert Mitchum singing calypso. But I still think this guy's a dick.

pasta65 said...

This makes me chuckle,

"Anyway, I think it's an idiotic argument to note that Foo Fighters performed with and were remixed by Deadmau5, neither of which was likely their choice. Labels chose remixers, smart guy. The Academy chooses performers smart guy."

I think the Foo Fighters have reached the point where the label asks them what they want.

The record company does not tell them anything except when their next check is coming in the mail.

NoxiousNan said...

"Do you know who I work for?"

He is implying you wouldn't or shouldn't have written what you did because of the association. Why? Is that a firing offense? Is there an ethical standard?

Please tell me that is just more of his idiocy.

Anonymous said...

@ pasta65...
My guess is that it was Deadmau5 who contacted Dave Grohl and asked if he could remix "Rope". I don't think RCA had anything to do with it.

Plus, reading all of the comments telling Dennis Romero what a douchebag he is (along with your reply, Chez) made my day. What do you bet his editors told him he needed to write something about the Grammys and he couldn't come up with anything better (worse) than this.

Anonymous said...

I highly doubt Deadmau5 asked the Foo Fighters to perform with him. I'm betting it was the show's producers idea because they figured having section of the show consisting of only electronic music would freak out viewers, so they threw in some rock and rap. The Grammys have always shut out dance music, they have some weird biased against that genre of music.

Chez said...

The first and most important consideration that needs to be addressed right off the bat: Who gives a damn what the Grammys think about anything? They're the most worthless major awards in the entertainment industry and everyone knows it. Chances are the producers set up that performance because Deadmau5 had remixed Rope and so to them it made sense. I actually think it was a cool idea.

As for electronic not getting any respect from the Grammys, again, A) who cares? The Grammys are slow on the uptake to every new trend (which is not to say that electronic is new, only that its massive cross-cultural popularity is in a relative sense). B) It doesn't change a thing about the fact that Dennis's piece was a complete waste of time because it was based on a faulty assumption.

Incidentally, one thing I didn't bother to get into because I almost didn't think it was necessary is that thanks to his pedigree and their tremendous success, Grohl and the Foo Fighters have a staggering amount of clout and I very seriously doubt that a record company or anyone else could make them do anything they didn't want to.

Anonymous said...

Hold up, I don't care about the blasted Grammys, but it was nice to see Skrillex nominated for best new artist. These guys are finally getting some respect within the music industry, and having the Grammys finally giving them a nod helps them break into the mainstream. That means I don't have to purchase my music from blasted iTunes UK anymore because the US store never had those particular artists. I am way off topic now, sorry. But I personally would have rather watched Deamau5 perform material he wrote himself at the Grammys, not a remix of someone else's work.

Chez said...

The thing is, a lot of DJs make their bones remixing other people's material. I mean, that's what DJing is generally all about. That said, he did Raise Your Weapon (a song which, by the way, Dave Grohl was moving along to when the cameras cut to him in front of the DJ stand).

Anonymous said...

PS, yes, dude's article was lame. Grohl's comment was not knocking electronic music. I'm not sure how he connected "having expensive computers" and dance music. And saying the Foo Fighters is "slowed down punk", is that a bad thing? Does he know edm derived from punk, or I am I missing his point?

Chez said...

Every line of it was just oozing pissy, petty hypersensitivity. He genuinely -- and wrongly -- believed that some rock guy had dissed his dear dance music and suddenly had flashbacks to being stuffed in lockers by the jocks or something back in high school. Hence, he lashed out like an angry 7-year-old.

Anonymous said...

Deadmau5 is NOT a DJ. He has stressed that point on numerous occasions, and he's really sensitive about being called that. But yes, "DJ's" are also producers and the majority of their income comes from remixing other artists work. What upsets me is the Grammys adding in rap and rock that was supposed to be a electronic segment. Most of these guys do write their own music, why have them perform a remix?

Anonymous said...

LOL, I'm betting he secretly hates dance music and but enjoys going to venues, like the Electric Daisy Carnival, scoping out young the young chicks in their slutty raver gear.

Chez said...

Sorry, Zimmerman. You're a producer and a programmer, and an immensely talented one. You're also a DJ. Deal.

As for incorporating rock and rap, a couple of things: Chris Brown and Lil Wayne are actually on that Guetta song, so why the hell not have them up there since the Grammys are all about bringing lots of types of music together and creating spectacle. The same goes for the Foo Fighters, who had their track remixed by Deadmau5 so it presents the producers with a great opportunity to create a huge spectacle in a way that only a show as big as the Grammys often can. Everybody got their chance to shine -- I really don't see what the big deal is. It's nothing to be insulted about and if you are that, again, makes you slightly petty and means your feelings get hurt a little too easily.

By the way, you're arguing fine points -- it's a shame you're doing it anonymously.

Chez said...

By the way, sometimes a cross-cultural shout-out or team-up is a fantastic idea because it breaks barriers and introduces fans of one genre of music to another. Think Run-DMC and Aerosmith, Public Enemy and Anthrax, the entire Spawn soundtrack, or maybe something as simple as Axl Rose wearing a Nine Inch Nails shirt onstage back in the late 80s before they broke huge.

Anonymous said...

Now you know what to refer to Zimmerman as if you ever meet him. I may have saved you a punch in the face. The Grammy's bringing lots of music types together? Then why in the hell have they ignored this particular type of music for so many years? Look, yes I am being petty, and you forgot selfish, but so what? The segment was a dedication to dance music, not producing music. And okay, you're gonna blast me on this next point, so I better prepare myself, but I hate guitars and rock. And adding the foo fighters, god love them, kinda ruined it for me. That chick Adele didn't have to share the stage, why should deadmau5 have to?

Chez said...

I'm sure the Grammy producers will note your disapproval -- sorry it was ruined for you.

I can't really debate this anymore -- particularly if you can't see the difference between an Adele and a Deadmau5.

Anonymous said...

I'm not saying cross-cultural performances are a bad idea, that's how new styles are created. I'm saying the Grammys need to own up to being a complete douche for ignoring dance for so many years. And deadmau5's performance was so short, as well as Guetta. If the Foo Fighters didn't perform, they could have had longer sets. PS, I'm Anonymous because I have no google or openID account. I enjoy being off the grid.

Anonymous said...

Hey, it's just music. Everyone has their own personal preferences.

Chez said...

You're absolutely right. I just got back from a run during which I listened to, among other things, the Foo Fighters, Black Flag, Chase and Status, the Prodigy and Kaskade. Takes an open mind.

Eric said...

Anon: if the Grammys were to own up to every time they were douches, they'd have to schedule another three-hour show. Maybe six hours on two consecutive nights. And dissing EDM for so long wouldn't be the first apology on the agenda.

I'm saying this as the guy who stopped paying much attention to them when Jethro Tull (I own several Tull records and have always loved those guys) won the first ever "Best Metal" album (and I don't even own any Metallica, though their first couple of records are alright). And that bit of ancient history probably wouldn't be the first thing on the apologies agenda, either. I'm just dredging it up to point out the Grammys have never been known for their sharpness or relevance. It's a bigger shock when they get something right for once.