Tuesday, March 22, 2011

Quote of the Day

"President Obama moved forward without Congress approving. (That) would appear on its face to be an impeachable offense."

-- Dennis Kucinich

Thankfully, as usual, Kucinich's comments will be met with a chorus of crickets.

Related: DXM: Dennis Weary/3.11.10


Anonymous said...

What these hardcore ideologues like Kucinich need to realize is that President Obama is the best we could hope for. Sure, he promised to close Gitmo...so now he has expanded his powers to allow for the assassination of US Citizens accused of terrorism (without ever clarifying how one is accused of such a crime since it doesn't take place in any legal setting)...but hey, he repelled DADT...except he really didn't and like the previous presidents since Clinton, just ignored the wishes of the US military to repeal that retarded act. But we got healthcare reform like he promised...except it was nothing like he promised...But we are getting out of Iraq...by way of Libya. I mean we have to protect the Libyan people who are rebelling. Unlike those fucking savages in Bahrain who are getting out of line and attacking the minority Sunni leaders who clearly have their best interests...fucking Shiites...can't trust them with shit can we?

I mean sure...pretty much the entire presidency of Barrack Obama has been a continuation of the Bush II years, but what exactly is Kucinich expecting? That a "constitutional lawyer" actually read and respect the damn thing. I mean...imagine just how messed up the US would be right now if...I dare say it...a "republican" was in charge. I mean it would be completely and utterly different...right? Right?!?

TheReaperD said...

Sometime I like the guy and other times I think he's a fucking idiot. Score another one for category two.

CNNfan said...

"President Obama moved forward without Congress approving. (That) would appear on its face to be an impeachable offense."

-- Dennis Kucinichh

I tend to agree... It would appear on its face that Congress should be impeached.


Trixi said...

It's a tough one...I certainly felt that way about Bush, and I hate to be a contrarian. It's a slippery slope.

Chez said...

I certainly don't back everything Obama has done but the second you parrot the comically stupid "just like Bush" meme, your whole argument goes out the window. Especially since you have to know the unfathomably vast differences between Obama and Bush & the GOP these days, and if you don't then you're not worth listening to anyway.

Trixi said...

I was surprised to learn that no war has been voted on since 1941. Korea wasn't even sanctioned.

Mart said...

Obama does not pass the progressive purity test, shocking. Did you spend any time looking at his voting record? He was essentially a blue dog democrat in the Senate, and continues in that vein now. Have you heard McCain/Palin lately? You damn well know that our freedom bombs would be raining their blessings without any of the reflection or restraint Obama put into it. I think Libya is a horrible idea, but I hope it works for him. He needs a break.

We are lucky to have a sane person running this insane Government. Obama gripers sit on your butts in 2012 like you did the mid-term and the crazy ass will be full on. (You have been watching the 2010 house Republicans, right?) Liberals need better candidates (including Kucinich)and policies, but for now we need to settle for some sense of decency. There is no option.

Anonymous said...

The current GOP seems designed to make GWB look not so bad. Just as GWB made his father look like a genius. Palin will be soon taking the oath of office to continue this downward spiral.

Anonymous said...

Chez, I respect the hell out of you, and I really enjoy your blog. And one of these days, when I have the time and the money, I will purchase, read, and most likely, readily enjoy your book. But as the first commenter to your post, I have to take objection to your referring to my views as simply a meme.

At first, I was kind of taken back. To just look at someone's opinion, and then just imply that it is mindless dribble is normally something that I expect from other media institutions or personalities. I was pretty much expecting a hard hitting rip into me where you showed exactly where Bush II and Obama differed, showing the great difference in how this nation address its energy and resource needs...how we conduct international relations and fight wars...how we address the growing divide between the rich and poor in this nation...or even prosecute the criminals responsible for the massive fraud in the banking sector...how our current president was more open, allowing the people to read and review all bills before they get voted on...how no longer would the executive branch would serve as a rest stop for the elites between careers in business and lobbying...how education in this nation needs major reform lest we continue to descend behind the rest of the industrial world.

But nothing...no witty rip apart of my ignorance and stupidity.

Then it hit me. You can't...I mean sure...we can look at superficial crap like how the president basically punted on DOMA, or that he throws a few million towards green tech as if that is really going to stop us from consuming insane amounts of resources. But there is no meaningful difference between Bush II and Obama...and you could go back centuries and see the same thing. If presidents were so vital...this country would have been massively screwed up long ago.

Obama is basically screwed. He can't be what the liberals want and he sure as shit can't be what the conservatives fear. I just get amazed that people honestly act like our lives have dramatically changed from what they were under Bush II. Last time I checked, I still fear the shit out of the PATRIOT ACT.

PS...Again, huge fan...and to completely honest, I love that you are passionate about your views and your extremely talented. I just can't agree with you on this (nor do I think you expect that I do).

Chez said...

Fair enough. But two things: First of all I tend not to debate people who can't even be bothered to make up fake names. In your case I mean this as complimentary criticism, as in your comment is really thoughtful and articulate and you should attach some kind of name to it. Second, I've already run down the differences between Obama and Bush ad nauseam so I don't want to do it again. Look, there are a lot of things he has and hasn't don't that have infuriated me, but he isn't Bush... not by a long shot.

Withnail said...

Yeah, Yeah, Kucinich is a twerp.

But he's not wrong. He's never been wrong.

Izar Talon said...

With Libya, you have to realize that Obama was damned both ways. If he did something, he was gonna get jumped on by everyone. If he did nothing, he was gonna get jumped on by everyone. Is anyone actually surprised that someone isn't totally outraged at ANYTHING he did about it?

Chez said...

I don't know about that, Withnail; that haircut was kind of a bad idea.

Steven D Skelton said...

Talk of impeachment is obviously beyond stupid, but there is a point here.

Recalling off the top of my head, as best I can, the major military engagements since I came of age the president usually asks for congressional approval.

Gulf wars I and II I know had resolutions authorizing force. Ditto for Afghanistan. I'm pretty sure there was congressional approval for the Balkans...but I could be wrong.

Jonah Goldberg makes a good point here. President Obama waited for UN security council approval, and paraphrasing from his column today: If we had time to wait on the Gabonese, we certainly had time to wait for the US Senate.

Anonymous said...

The President only needs congressional approval if the U.S. acts unilaterally against another country.