Sunday, December 19, 2010

The Leak of Extraordinarily Ungentleman-like



Oh, the irony.

The New York Times: Details of Swedish Case Against Julian Assange Leaked/12.18.10

12 comments:

Glen Gatin said...

Act like a journalist and follow up on some of the leaks instead of piling on the bogus case against Assange like a jealous wannabe.

Chez said...

Yes, I want to be Julian Assange; I mean, hell, I figure just about anybody can fuck a woman without a condom, so maybe I'm halfway there.

Obviously I'm kidding, but the fact is that whether I think the charges against Assange are somewhat questionable -- and I've said in the past that I'm not naive enough to believe that those who dislike him wouldn't go to any length at all to discredit him -- I also can't abide those who immediately dismiss these accusations as being much ado about nothing. I've made it clear why I'm not a fan of what Assange has been doing over the last several months, so I'm not running it down yet again. But it's astonishing the pious and self-righteous indignation of his defenders, who consistently label anyone in the media who doesn't laud Assange's bravery as pathetic establishment sheep content to just accept the status quo. That just ain't so, and to haughtily claim otherwise makes you look like a tool, Glen.

Chez said...

And incidentally, I didn't say I necessarily agreed with the allegations against Assange one way or the other -- I merely pointed out the admittedly amusing irony of the details of the case being leaked to the public.

VOTAR said...

He is part of the rebel alliance, and a spy.

Take him away.

Anonymous said...

Yup it's ironic when officials leak shit to destroy someone's credibility, especially someone they want silenced. Yelling, "Look over here, not behind the curtain!" But the other way around? That's just being douchey and an egomaniacal asshat. How ironic.

Jim said...

The stuff about the broken condom gives the term wikileaks a whole new meaning.

I would probably consider myself a supporter of Assange if I had any reason whatsoever to believe that his work was a selfless and ultimately righteous attempt at exposing the truth. He has however time and again proven himself to be a petulant self-serving little prick who's not prepared to take responsibility when the shit goes down. Daniel Ellsberg, in releasing the 1000 pages that came to be known as the Pentagon papers, risked his freedom and physical well being and was willing to take whatever was handed down in order to expose huge lies that served to perpetuate a mass human slaughter. Mr. Assange seems to be of the mind that he can rip down whatever proprietary information that can be had via the internet and then simply walk away and cry foul when he's held accountable.

Glen Gatin said...

And the journalism thing??? Nice stick handle.

BTW, thanks for calling me a tool, at least a tool is useful.

brite said...

I, for one, am glad this 'information' has been leaked, although I would like to see the actual documentation and not just the NY Times interpretation.I would venture that Mr. Assange is not unpleased by this either (although I probably shouldn't presume)because revealing the facts allows people to draw their own conclusions, good or bad, and that really is the ethos behind Wikileaks and the 5th estate.
My personal feelings are that he behaved like a major douchebag, but I had no idea it was a criminal offense...maybe that's not such a bad idea.

Chez said...

It's always the big, bad establishment versus the insurrectionist Horatius-at-the-Bridge punk, isn't it? It actually is that way sometimes -- no doubt about it. But while it's fun to think, it isn't always like that.

Anonymous said...

You're funny Glen. For an individual who leaves himself so open to cyber attack, I find it interesting that who seem to wholeheartedly support those like Assange. With just one click, I found a lot of information about you. Granted, your small potatoes, but all it takes is one individual that knows what they are doing to ruin your life for weeks if not months.

I think the big reason why Assange's actions are really not going to matter at all is the simple fact that Americans are idiots. They don't want to change their lives so until they get off the internet, actually learn how much blood is required for them to maintain their standard of living, and actually CHANGE their lives, this "outrage" is all just masturbation.

I don't really care. I've been overseas, seen the conditions of the Middle East, and despite whatever opinions people may have...Afghanistan and Iraq are light years better than they used to be. Americans seem to have this retarded notion that war is like the movies. Quick and brutal, with snappy little credits at the end. Nope. Peace is a thousand times more bloody and more expensive. We still have peace keeping missions in Kosovo to keep the Serbs and the Albanians from slaughter each other.

If Assange actually cared about the message, as opposed to promoting the messenger, he would have never opened himself up. He is a fame whore...and a bit of a scuzz bag to boot. Ahhhh...but again, really who gives a shit. People will keep on killing each other, Americans will get all indignant on their computers, and the third world will continue to keep getting raped to allow Americans to live a life far beyond their needs.

John Foley said...

Anonymous #1 doesn't know what irony is. Heh.

Stephen said...

I loved him in Warlock.