"Go back to what our founders and our founding documents meant. They're quite clear -- that we would create law based on the God of the Bible and the Ten Commandments."-- Sarah PalinWhat our founding documents 'meant'? I wasn't aware that the living documents upon which this nation is based were no longer in existence. That is a rather unfortunate. I recall quite a bit of meaning in the Constitution, particularly.
As I think Ebert brought up on Twitter in response to this, if we went back to what the founding fathers supposedly wanted, women wouldn't have the right to vote.On the bright side, no Palin '12. Maybe she's onto something.
As sad as it is, this awful woman is laughing all the way to the bank. I think she would say anything to make a dollar while keeping her face in the media. If this media whore could make 12 million a year espousing liberal ideals she probably would. What is truly tragic to me is not that she exists, but that there are too many people in this country who believe anything she says and do not think she is a total and complete moron. There are people who voted for her to become Vice President in the last election for christ's sake. This lack of intelligence, common sense, the ability to be rational, or to act in your own best interest is scary to me. Beck, Limbaugh, and Palin are not the disease. They are a symptom of the hatred, ignorance, and selfishness going on in this country. Makes a girl want to move to Canada.
Wowie zowie. You're soooooo right.How DO you stay so stupid? If not, how DO you keep a straight face?Serious thinking deficits, or being a victim of your own propaganda, or not giving a shit because everybody lies, nowadays?I was raised during the sixties, the Pierre Trudeau era here. Kennedy, Martin L. King, Johnston and Nixon for you guys.At least then, people who were uneducated (a.k.a. "stupid") didn't get the mike for long, and didn't much get quoted.Aha!?Is the problem now that there's too little education, and so many people don't even realise they're spewing crap? (Not to forget that now 'anyone' has access to the web and to Fox News.)In other words, is it a case of a little knowledge being dangerous?... Mixed in with believing your own hype?Someone help me: how can so many American political "leaders" and Fox-type talking heads even live with themselves, I mean talking like they do but then seeing the world? The cognitive dissonance. Ann Coulter I understand, she's a self-evaluated-as-superior second-rater, a mean bottle-blonde who delights in "winning" the argument in her own head, but all those others including Palin, what the hell is wrong with their perceptions or their faculties?Or is it also that "news", whether on the Web or the boob tube, has become in effect "News of the World", that is to say tabloid-level?Questions, questions. Ranty post over.
And here I thought Thomas Jefferson wanted religion to have nothing to do with government. Silly me.
I think Sarah Palin already has her own quote of the day. That's all she is; it's her PR strategy, to be a walking, winking Page-a-Day calendar for retards*.* meant satirically, of course.
"Our laws are based on the Ten Commandments" was REALLY big about three years ago.Then an interviewer asked one of the guys that kept spouting this to name the Ten Commandments... just name them. He managed THREE, then sheepishly admitted that he didn't have all of them memorized. It was hilarious; I wish I could still find that video.Michael Moore also used the shtick: on "The Awful Truth", he asked several Congressmen to name specific commandments, and none of them could do it.Simultaneous to that, a couple of Youtube videos (correctly) pointed out that for four of the ten, our laws are not only NOT based on them, but the law actually directly protects you if you BREAK those four commandments. In other words, our laws are directly opposed to those four. "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me" and "Thou shalt not worship graven images" were two of the four.So, hopefully, someone will catch Palin, put a camera in her face, and ask her to name the Ten Commandments. Bet it would be twice as funny with her not remembering them. ;-)
ok, i'm for it. first off, we can stone her and that whore of a daughter of hers. painted jezebel's both.
If we went back to the Founding Fathers' original vision, we would see a return to God, Sweet Baby Jesus and Billy Ray Cyrus in our public schools thus making them worthwhile again. Right now, we have Godless schools educating kids that the gay sex and a nanny state is all right.So Miss Sarah is right. We have lost our way in this once-free nation. Too many of us have let our children do the drug, drink and the sex out-of-wedlock. It's the good book that will save all of us.
Let's take a ride in Bill's Way-Back Machine, shall we?:"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."-- James Madison, 1774"How has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?"-- John Adams, 1816"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth... I have recently been examining all the known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition (Christianity) one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology."-- Thomas Jefferson (whose original words in the Declaration of Independence read "All men are created equal and independent. From that equal creation they derive rights inherent and inalienable," which Congress later changed to include a reference to a creator)."Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by the difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be depreciated."--George Washington, 1792"I wish [Christianity] were more productive of good works ... I mean real good works, not holy-day keeping, sermon-hearing, or making long prayers, filled with flatteries and compliments despised by wise men, and much less capable of pleasing the Deity."-- Benjamin Franklin"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half of the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind."--Thomas PaineA five minute google search is all you need to see that our secular, deist, Freemason founding fathers were practically falling over each other to keep religion out of the framework of the new, enlightened government they had created.
It should also be pointed out that if we really did what she wants her daughter would have to be stoned to death
She's afraid of BIG GOVERNMENT exercising control of her humble nation? F that hyprocrisy. She's pushing for the most well-published mind control in the history of mankind: the Book. Woman has some huge cojones. Hopefully we'll get to see them during her transgender modification on her upcoming reality show! ZING!
Billy Ray Cyrus? Are you fucking kidding me, Bill Orvis White? A *real* Conservative would've said Tim McGraw or Brooks & Dunn, not some guy pimping out his own daughter to the Hollywood money machine?Methinks you're a closet Liberal, that would explain your regular visits to this site.Maybe even a commie?As for Sarah Palin: she's what the Soviets used to call a "useful idiot", doin more of a disservice to her cause than anything constructive. What does she care: as countless other commentors (commentators?) have observed, she's in it for the fame & fortune. Her target audience is gonna be there wether it's her or it's some other Mr or Mrs. Potatohead bankrolled by that shitheel Grover Norquist et. al. Anything to misdirect people's anger & attention away from the real criminals.Benoit From Ottawa: Could it be that the education itself is the problem? If all they're teaching is that the correct answer is the only thing that matters (Standardized Testing) & not critical thinking skills (Critical is such a negative word, we're told) is it any wonder we have a nation full of morons? If eductaion is nothing but Received Opinion, what good is it?It's great if you're rich & you need a pliant & predictable mass of easily frightened suckers.Fear & Greed is all that's needed.(funny, my word verification nis "unsigh")
You fucking rule, Votar. Comment of the Week, right there.
Kudos to Votar's research skills, but even that much work was unnecessary. If our law was based on the Bible then Sarah Palin would have had neither a job nor a soapbox -- end of story.
Palin may be the apotheosis of the linguistic approach in which the actual words are irrelevant, and merely exist to indicate which set of prejudices are being invoked. Her gibberish is perfectly adequate to reassure her base: it translates roughly as "America! Church! White people!" This would be pathetic except it's also the language of the vast majority of corporate middle managers and above. It insulates them from responsibility for anything their underlings may do, or the consequences of any of their decisions, since it can so easily be argued that they meant something entirely different. This language absolves Palin of any responsibility for the execution or results of her policies, since it's completely impossible to pin down what she might actually have meant. And seeing it elevated to national-level political discourse makes me want to hide under the bed for the next ten years.
I, too, would like to congratulate Votar FTW.But he left out this little nugget, Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli:"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen, and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."Signed by President John Adams on June 10, 1797, after a unanimous ratification by the US Senate -- the third unanimous vote in the history of that body.
I found The Treaty of Tripoli one along the way too, but I wanted to stick to one quote per founding father if I could (you can fill an encyclopedia with other equally illustrative examples from them all), and that being a specific treaty, one which apparently, ominously, seems aimed at not pissing off Muslims...go figure... I stuck to the most universal examples from their own published writings.
True. What I like about it, though, is that it's an official statement of position, and not at all open to interpretation.Still and all, I want to party fireman-style with Palin. And Michelle Bachmann. These are dirty, dirty girls.
Aha, a huge thanks to Voltar (already thanked Chez for posting). Brilliant!
"God of the Bible"? Huh? God of the dictionary doesn't have the same ring to it.Is there a The Bible for Dummies out? Does Sarah have a copy?
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