
Nothing like a Twitter war to make the afternoon breeze by.
A little while ago my phone started going crazy, letting me know that I was getting incoming tweets; a quick check revealed that they were from a bunch of people I've never even heard of -- most of whom were unleashing hell on me for daring to supposedly challenge Andrew Breitbart and Big Hollywood for their decision to elevate an inconsequential comment from Roger Ebert to the level of blasphemy. There was the obligatory name-calling; the accusations of being a pussy liberal; the run-on sentences; you know, that kind of thing.
Turns out Breitbart had retweeted my post to his followers -- and it obviously pissed them off.
So he and I went at it briefly -- nothing too brutal, just the usual juvenile nonsense that I've been complaining about here for the past several weeks when it comes to the direction political discourse has taken in this country. Admittedly, I contributed to the problem by hammering Big Hollywood in the Ebert post; I considered it a reaction -- a really angry one -- to the ridiculous comments left by some of the site's readers, but there's no doubt that at some point you have to ask yourself where the hell it ends, when one side will stop upping the ante on piss and vinegar.
The surprising thing, though, is that Breitbart saw fit to get into it with me at all. That's just fucking weird. Sure, he inexplicably wrote to me a couple of weeks ago -- which I responded to by writing a piece that was critical but relatively fair to him. (Yeah, I think Breitbart's "journalism" is beyond questionable; no, that doesn't mean I want to see him personally run over by a truck.) But what does he have to gain by staging a pissing match with me on Twitter? The first rule of PR in a public war of words is that the little guy always wins because the more prominent of the two combatants is forced to lower himself to even go at it. The only thing I can think of is that Breitbart is either a) a bully who can't handle even the tiniest bit of criticism and who feels the need to teach all comers a lesson, no matter who they are, or b) somebody who likes to argue bitterly just for the hell of it.
If he's the former, then he unfortunately fits a really shitty cliché about the mouthpieces on the right these days. If he's the latter, then he might prove my point that political debate in general has gone completely off the rails. I don't even pretend to know Breitbart personally, so I have no idea what he's really all about.
Look, I may have my opinions, but God knows I'll listen to anyone who dissents as long as he or she is interested in discussion and not derision. Do I pick on powerful people and institutions and not suffer fools lightly? Absolutely. When the topic is as potentially important as the path this country takes, am I a sucker for legitimate discourse? Once again -- absolutely. It was funny to watch Breitbart's readers gang up on me because it was such a knee-jerk reaction: guy says something negative about Big Hollywood; guy's obviously a smarmy liberal asshole. Of all the ostensible enemies Breitbart and his followers could've targeted, I'm one of the few who tends to take shots at just about everyone -- that means both sides -- and is willing to go against the grain regardless of which camp is embracing his opinion on a given day, which means, I hope, that I'm one of the least easy guys to politically pigeonhole.
In other words, I'm as likely to agree with you as disagree. But the only way to learn how anyone thinks is to talk rather than scream.
Besides, for fuck's sake, no matter how serious it gets -- in the end it's just politics.
Wednesday, February 17, 2010
Mutually Assured Distraction
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"I'm one of the few who tends to take shots at just about everyone -- that means both sides -- and is willing to go against the grain regardless of which camp is embracing his opinion on a given day, which means, I hope, that I'm one of the least easy guys to politically pigeonhole."
I've got to disagree with you here, if only in the way with which you "take shots" at people, or groups.
I don't give a shit about what you, Breitbart, Ebert, or anybody else thinks. I find you semi-entertaining, and that's why I stop around every now and then, but that's about it.
I can say that I've noticed the difference in the level of ferocity at which you "mock" some. In other words, you call or label all, or most, Republicans "Bat Shit Crazy," Texans and Floridians as Backward-Ass Retards, (or the equivalent,) but "scold" Democrats, Liberals, and especially Obama with kid gloves.
Yeah, I could see how people might "pigeon-hole" you.
Think about it.
J.K.
Breitbart's sites are Weapons of Media Distraction. And you're catching on to how the shills, hacks, and mixed nuts of the Faux Noise fear factory don't WANT a conversation. They want to make loud noises and DROWN OUT conversation.
Think about it: for all the time the MSM finally did waste fact-checking death panels and FEMA death camps, how much better would the public discourse be if the media had discussed the actual details of the bills instead?
I actually wrote an entire piece recently on why the right's drawn a lot more of my fire lately than the left, and I'm not going back on that, JK.
That said, go back through the archive. I've beat up on just about everyone. Not necessarily saying it's a point of pride or anything, just that it is. I have an issue with extremists on either end of the political spectrum. I've made no bones about the fact that my politics lean slightly to the left -- with a hell of a lot of caveats -- but I've never aligned myself with either side.
I can vouch that Chez will beat on anybody, J.K. I don't agree with some of what he writes and, occasionally I give him shit about it. And he gives it right back.
And then a few weeks later he puts something that I said on the front page.
I'm not saying that Chez is Hammurabi, but in terms of fairness and equanimity, this is about as good as it gets on the internet.
I have a major issue with stupid -- especially in this day and age. You have access to more information than any generation in history; it's ludicrous to get your news and form your opinion from only one news source, no matter what your cultural and political bent may be.
I have a friend who went to highschool with Breitbart. about a year ago he put some less than kind words about him on his blog, which is mostly just for personal ruminations and not an especially heavily trafficked blog. Breitbart and his cronies came out of the woodwork to say nasty and threatening things. I think it was far and away the most comments he ever had to a post. It just seemed way out of proportion for such a small target.
Just three days ago Chez wrote a piece about Evan Bayh's retirement. He used the words "utterly horseshit" to describe Bayh's reasoning. He used words like "unmitigated crap" and "overly pious" to describe the far left and their reaction to his leaving.
Not exactly kid gloves, J.K.
I enjoy friendly disagreement here, but this time I've got your back Chez. They totally lose, not you. Let me explain. If you are feeling at all disappointed about being ganged up on... On a Web 2.0 social-networking site, then this news should help you feel better:
Have you heard the news? Web 2.0 social-networking sites are a total bust. Marketers can't even make heads or tails out of the Web 2.0 social-networking site's mass mismanaged fanbase.
If we can even call it that, the out of control fanbase is financially running those Web 2.0 social-networking sites into the ground.
Marketers in effect if not in fact reject them as all a bunch of fake fans that can't be measured. If there is no viable business model to make money on a group that is claimed to be much larger than the entire population of the U.S.A, then that my friend should put their behaviour in perspective for you.
So feel better. It's OK.
-Tom
Citation:
http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/07/technology/hempel_threepointo.fortune/index.htm
Chez (and Kanye),
Once again:
"I hope, that I'm one of the least easy guys to politically pigeonhole."
I also have a major issue with stupid. I just think that the above statement is the most ridiculous thing you could say.
I don't disagree that Chez is able, or willing, to "beat on anybody." I merely pointed out which that both you and he may be overlooking...
Simply, he makes it pretty easy for people, especially the idiots who blindly follow the Palins, Becks, O’Reillys, Limbaughs, Teabaggers, Breitbarts, whoever, to think that he is a Bleeding Heart Liberal Democrat. Whether he truly is, or isn’t, is of no consequence, (but calling them crazy wingnut fucktards all the time is pretty convincing.) It’s all in the perception.
BTW, like I said before, the “scolding” you’ve given recently to the Democrats in Congress, is nothing like the shit you’ve been dishing out. The Republicans and their reign over most of this decade were most deserving of it. Now, for over a year, with a controlling majority in all three houses, (well, I’m counting the White one too,) little or nothing is changed, and there’s no excuse. So you speak up, but sadly, with a mere whimper?
Where was the “venomous” rage, the voracity? You still spout that if this were a different time and place, “Wall Streeters” and bankers and such would get the guillotine, but not those selfish pricks representing you in D.C.? Plenty of “shame on you,” but no “off with ‘yer heads!”
One could equate it this way, it’s not hard to conjure up that when you “go off” on Liberal Democrats, you “Diddle Pooters,” while you get yourself off “Fisting” Conservative Republicans.
It is YOU who dictate how you’re perceived.
N'EST PAS? There's my 2 cents.
J.K.
Breitbart is a major league douchenozzle. Wrong headed, stubborn and arrogant.
Want me to not mince words? And at some point I'm sure I'll go into this more on the main page: The Democrats are worthless. They're fucking buffoons.
Whether you agree with their platform or not, any party that's had as much power as they have and has done as little with it over the past year is nothing short of a national joke. I actually mentioned this once before -- in the piece I wrote about that Andrew Wilkow show on Sirius XM awhile back -- namely that as much as I think Wilkow's a spectacular boob, he was dead-on when he said that the Democrats behave like born losers and probably can't be trusted with the country for that reason. I don't think the Republicans would be any better certainly -- they had eight years and basically ran America into the ground in every possible way. But I'm beginning to think that the Dems simply aren't capable of getting their shit together enough to handle that much authority. It's in their nature to argue amongst themselves to the point where nothing gets done. What's the alternative then? Hell if I know anymore.
@ Anonymous
"Whether he truly is, or isn’t, is of no consequence, (but calling them crazy wingnut fucktards all the time is pretty convincing.)"
They ARE crazy wingnut fucktards. All the time! And if one of them so much as feigns to utter just one remotely reasonable idea or theory I'm sure Chez will be the first to acknowledge the incident.
To the person below my last comment:
Those who attacked Chez as described in his article, were like the rat-pack running away from the flood waters of the Titanic, trying to sneak onto Chez' lifeboat.
The gigantic Web 2.0 social networking sites are like a sinking ship. Being in denial about it when it is a widely reported fact, marketers have already abandoned ship, is what is truly ridiculous.
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