Thursday, January 22, 2009

Why So Stupid?


For the record: The Dark Knight, and Chris Nolan in particular, got robbed.

The New York Times: Benjamin Button Tops Oscar Noms/1.22.09

18 comments:

Deacon Blue said...

I figured it was probably too much to hope for that this film would get a Best Pic nomination, but Best Director certainly would have been nice.

But as usual, such fare (along with Iron Man) mostly gets thrown into the cinematography, art direction, visual effect, makeup, etc. blender.

VOTAR said...

Okay.

I'm going to be the first to have the guts to say what apparently no one else wants to. That emperor wears no clothes.

I watched Dark Knight three times. Three times. I figured, okay, maybe the first time, in the theater, I wasn't able to appreciate everything I was seeing for the first time. So I bought the dvd. I gave it three fair shots.

Dark Knight is a mess. Ledger's performance was alright. Not Oscar material, but entertaining. The movie itself is an untidy collection of too many good ideas, stitched together into one movie where arguably, three movies might have been needed to separate them out into coherent story arcs. Was it about a villain called the Joker (a character that went out of his way to convince everyone he is just a rampaging agent of chaos, except that every one of his crimes was a labyrinth of intricate pre-planned plots)?

Was it about Two-Face? There was a great story buried in there that the meager 30 minutes of on-film attention it was given could never have done justice.

Was it about mobsters and their Chinese off-shore accounts? All of that was an interesting detour, but you could edit it out and still have a completely intact -- and perhaps more manageable -- movie.

Was it about the dangers of unfettered surveillance and the choice between one's ideals, and the expedience necessary to fight crime? That strange little parallel with this moment in history was itself a great little kernel of an idea that might have made for a terrific movie, itself.

Instead, Nolan went the way of Batman Returns, or Spiderman 3, and just threw everything at the screen all at once.

Ledger was fun to watch. He reinvented the character. But this does not an Oscar make, sorry to say, and the blind fauning over this one performance of his, just because he's dead now, strikes me as a little creepy. I don't know what movie or actors should win this year because I haven't seen any of the ones that were nominated, but if we can't do better than Heath Ledger imitating Pete Martell from Twin Peaks for two and a half hours, then Shakespeare in Love was the best movie of 1998.


:::Rolls up sleeves, cracks neck:::

Bring it on, fanboys.

Heather said...

Totally agree. They nominated TDK for everything but Best Picture. If you get that many nods everywhere else, doesn't it follow that you should get into the Best Picture category too? I suppose though that it is the traditional snub toward comic book/action movies that was expected. However, Chris Nolan not getting a nod for director is just ridiculous. He did an amazing job on both films, and I think people recognize that outside of him winning or not winning awards for it.

At least they got the Heath Ledger part right.

Anonymous said...

And where the fuck is Gran Torino and Defiance (other than the musical score nomination)?

Dark Knight was almost predictable because the Oscar club is a bunch of fucking elite moronic snobs. They wouldn't know a good movie if it punched them in the face. There's a damn good reason The Dark Knight did so well in theaters, and it was exactly because the movie is a fantastically well-orchestrated piece of cinema. Some of the parts are weak, there's no denying it, but the whole tops anything I've seen from 2008.

I mean, Benjamin Button? Most fucking BORING movie of the goddamn year.

Slumdog Millionaire I haven't watched yet, but will soon.

Milk? I haven't watched it, but because it depicts homosexuals, OF COURSE it got nominations. Otherwise, there'd be picketing outside the Oscars. Fucking Hollywood apologetics, seriously. It's just damn pathetic. It's like people saying, "I'm not racist." just to PROVE they aren't. Doing that sort of thing just proves you are.



In any case, I gave up on the Oscars a while ago. Whoever they have on the committee right now is brain dead.

Alex said...

I assume you saw that video of Ben Button vs Forrest Gump. I can dig up a link if you missed it. I think it was on funnyordie.com

Anonymous said...

fuck brad pitt.

Liz in Austin said...

[bows down to kiss Deacon's feet in an effort to show her unworthiness and gratitude]

Liz in Austin said...

omg...i meant VOTAR. see? i really am unworthy.

Loey said...

I've seen TDK three times b/c I was so thoroughly entertained. Did see Ben Button and can't imagine sitting through that another time--unless sick, on the couch and the remote is too far away. My bets are on Slumdog. It is a perfect movie. There's drama, tension, humour and love. Amazing movie. But have to see Frost/Nixon and Milk before I can "vote"

John said...

Going to have to side with Votar, and possibly quote him at some point in the near future. Poorly told story, painful dialogue, sloppy action sequences. It is the Juno of superhero movies.

But I must say, regardless of how you feel about the postmortem Ledger love-in, he managed to eclipse Nicholson's iconic performance. No small feat.

hecubus said...

hey votar, i agree 100%. both batman begins and dark knight were VERY average in my opinion. the only thing exceptional about dark knight was heath ledger's performance.....other than that it was 2 1/2 hours of batman riding through chicago in a motorcycle, in his bat motorcycle, in the batmobile, in a sports car, in a hang glider....

i walked out thinking, "really? everyone is going crazy over that?"

Anonymous said...

Well, Liz in Austin, the very brief thought that anyone would want to kiss my feet was nice, even if it was actually meant for VOTAR. And I don't begrudge him the peda-smootches.

Deacon Blue said...

Lord only knows what my name displayed as in my quasi-thank-you to Liz...as my fingers spasmed and sent my post early...

Mr. Controversy said...

http://amctheatres.com/promos/showcase/

A perfect way to kill a Saturday. Though, I think I'm going to skip the Awards telecast this year. I'll just read the recap the next day. (Though I can now root unapologetically for Slumdog, even without seeing it. Why? Because Danny Boyle owns.)

Just Some Joe said...

I thought the Dark Knight was good, but the sound mix WAS CRAP!!!! The music had drowned out the rest of the sound track in parts, I thought there was a problem in the IMAX theater i saw it in. When I saw it released on DVD, i found that was the way it was intended. It does not deserve the sound mixing nomination.

Hardeep said...

"But I must say, regardless of how you feel about the postmortem Ledger love-in, he managed to eclipse Nicholson's iconic performance."

I don't know about that. Nicholson's take on the joker was wonderful (and wonderfully zany). When I think of the joker, I still think of that character.

Ref said...

Anon may have had a couple of points, but Sean Penn should get an Oscar nod every time he breathes. He is a genius of an actor.

Suzy said...

I'm with you, Votar. Dark Knight was disappointing as hell. Almost boring. The only thing that was good about it was Ledger. And he, sadly, wasn't on screen enough in the movie. : (

I thought Button was, at the very least, thought-provoking. But I read the book, too and that was already in my head even before seeing the flick. I could really care less about Pitt. It could've been anyone playing in it. The story is good and that always helps.

The whole 'tortured soul' thing in the last couple of Batman films is wearing thin.