
Maybe I've been wrong all this time.
While a lot of the usual suspects on the left seemed to embrace victimhood at the hands of the Coulters, Limbaughs and Savages of the world, I always kind of dismissed the bellicose mouthpieces of the far-right as little more than Vaudevillian boobs. I looked at them as the media's equivalent of carnival barkers -- cut-rate provocateurs spouting amplified, affectedly shocking nonsense aimed at whipping their audience into a feeding frenzy while enticing new recruits into the tent by playing on their fears of liberal-agenda infestation. Sure, they were obnoxious as hell and probably deserved most of the blame for the complete erosion of civilized political discourse in this country, but in the end they were basically harmless; they'd simply stumbled upon a template for a brand of shtick sure to make them rich and it happened to involve, ironically, exploiting the lily-livered gullibility of Red State America better than anything their sworn enemies could've come up with. The best way to deal with their crap? Ignore it -- because anything else just emboldens the bullies and makes them not only increase the antagonism but laugh in your face for either not being able to "take a joke" or for failing to recognize just how powerless you are against them. Besides, I had always assumed that although plenty of people found these pompous loudmouths entertaining and bought wholly into the sentiment behind the saber-rattling, no one took them that seriously -- did they?
Somewhere along the line, I guess I forgot just who we were talking about here -- just what kind of people would listen intently to someone like Rush Limbaugh day after day and what they might be capable of. This is admittedly a huge oversight on the part of someone who considers himself an avowed misanthrope; I'll try not to make the same mistake again.
The question, though, is this: Would some on the American far-right -- who've had it psychically drilled into them that liberals are to blame for all their ills -- be capable of murder?
What started as a mere whisper has turned into an unrelenting drone throughout the blogosphere after the shooting death of Bill Gwatney, the chairman of the Arkansas Democratic Party. Gwatney was gunned down in his office at the Arkansas Democrats' HQ in Little Rock Wednesday by a man who had just been fired from his job at Target. Police say that after shooting Gwatney, 50-year-old Tim Dale Johnson led them on a high-speed chase for 30 miles; it ended with cops shooting and killing him. Although investigators are still trying to officially connect Bill Gwatney to the man who walked into a busy office and seemed to kill him in cold blood for no apparent reason, some are suggesting that the reason, in fact, is as obvious as it is disturbing -- that Johnson, a troubled loner, blamed liberal-leaning governmental politics for the loss of his job and exacted his revenge on the biggest target among Arkansas Democrats. They point to an arsenal of weapons found in Johnson's home after the shooting -- inarguably standard issue for right-wing psychopaths -- and, more disconcertingly, the fact that Wednesday's attack comes so soon after a deadly shooting inside a Tennessee church in which a gunman claimed to be out to kill the liberals who were supposedly controlling the country and preventing him from getting a job.
Is it irresponsible to question whether the two crimes are related? No. It's sort of a no-brainer to make the connection, as the shootings do seem similar and, like the police, most intellectually curious members of the public don't like coincidences. But are the crimes related? That remains to be seen; for now, absolutely not.
Which isn't stopping a vocal segment of the left from already jumping to the conclusion that these attacks on individuals whose politics take a liberal slant represent the inevitable next phase of a conservative "eliminationist" fantasy.
It's an agenda which has, admittedly, been proclaimed and perpetuated -- whether in jest or not -- by people like Limbaugh, Coulter and Savage for some time. These three and others like them have honed their talk of zero-tolerance for the people across the aisle to a knife's edge. For years, they've blanketed the airwaves, bookshelves and internet with ultra-nationalist agitprop which asserts that those who don't think like them are not simply to be argued with and voted down, they must be utterly crushed underfoot by any means necessary -- even if it involves, as Coulter once said, taking a baseball bat to them -- because they are nothing less than the enemy of the United States of America. In the words, if not actually the minds, of these seemingly fascist demagogues, liberals are as dangerous and absolute a threat to our way of life as the terrorists they supposedly coddle.
And there's no doubt that whatever their actual intentions may be -- no matter how much of it is just theater -- people are listening to the rhetoric and absorbing it. But are a few of those people now acting on it, and do the ones allegedly inciting the indignation through their bluster and bombast bear any responsibility for what it may be metastasizing into?
For almost a century, the litmus test for the lengths to which so-called free speech can legally be taken has come from Oliver Wendell Holmes, who famously ruled that "falsely shouting fire in a theater" was beyond protection; it's almost always been illegal to use a public forum to incite panic, violence or imminent lawless action. By that standard, there's just no way that any pundit at any time has crossed the line and broken the law. But legal doesn't always mean ethical, particularly not when you're refusing to take into consideration the fact that a substantial portion of your audience is made up of edgy, easily malleable "oppressed" white guys -- many of whom are now unemployed and looking for someone to blame for it. Although it's never a good idea to allow the potential misbehavior of the lowest common denominator to curb the right to free speech, it's equally inadvisable, not to mention irresponsible, to act as though you're operating in a vacuum -- as if what you say can't possibly have a negative impact, despite its incendiary nature. This was what made it such a pathetically insincere cop-out years ago when some lunatic from the Army of God would gun down an abortion doctor, leading Operation Rescue's Randall Terry to immediately get in front of a camera to offer an anemic and thoroughly horseshit disclaimer that he didn't advocate violence against abortion doctors. Terry set the wheels in motion and let nature take its course; today, the same thing could very easily be happening on an infinitely larger scale.
Once again, whether they mean it to or not, the invective of clowns like Limbaugh does have an impact. Listen long enough to right-wing propaganda and your eyes eventually glaze over, your brain shuts down and you begin to subscribe completely to the alternate reality that it's constructed out of thin air: an America where your new non-white neighbors are terrorists, immigrants are stealing your job, homosexuals want to lure your children into a life of sodomy, and treasonous liberals are plotting against you and your god at every turn. Believe this paranoid fantasy completely and who knows what you'll be capable of doing to defend your way of life.
It's no secret that the natural consequence of the fracturing of media -- of everyone having a voice and being able to put his or her opinions into writing and proffer them over the airwaves and internet -- is that there is no truth anymore. We have no common ground to anchor any argument. The left and right in this country live in completely separate worlds, each with its own set of facts. When we debate, we may as well be speaking foreign languages, so entirely have we allowed a single agreed-upon reality to become muddled by dishonesty on both sides. Rush Limbaugh lies his porcine ass off regularly and no one ever calls him on it; the ones who do are just dismissed by his acolytes as delusional or secretly trying to further the leftist agenda. Fox News and the Wall Street Journal launder George Bush's every sin until he comes out on the other end of the news cycle smelling fresh and clean.
And their listeners, viewers and readers believe every word of it. Their version of the truth, right or wrong, is why a man would shoot up a church in Tennessee, intransigent in the conviction that liberals are in control of the nation (when our president and half of our lawmakers are Republican) and that they've decimated the economy and taken away his job (when it could easily be argued Bush's policies, in fact, bear most if not all of the blame for the current dismal state of things).
For so long, the fire-and-brimstone of political division has been preached from every keyboard and microphone across our land; it was always just a matter of time before anger turned to action. All that rage had to go somewhere.
Maybe it just did.
Friday, August 15, 2008
An Equal and Opposite Reaction
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There will probably be more of these shootings. Malcolm Gladwell discusses school shootings as a phenomenon in his book "The Tipping Point". The first shooting served set the stage for others to copy. So, don't be surprised if other "liberal" political figures are targeted.
Ultimately it's funny and sad to me that the two people who you've highlighted in this column blame liberals for their plight. It's a commentary on today's "middle America" republican. Too stupid to understand that their party doesn't give a shit about them or their plight (unless there's money in it for the leaders of the group) and too stupid to realize that the Democrats are the ones who are trying to help people just like them.
They're so caught up in the "Rah Rah Rah...Go America!" bullshit to see that we're not always right. They blindly follow what is spouting out of the TV/Radio not realizing that said outlets are owned by companies who are themselves owned or run by the Rich Douchebags that don't give a shit about them to begin with.
I'm just so tired of the bullshit Rhetoric that the Neo-con Machine has going. Take a look at your bank account, your current retirement portfolio, and the high cost of EVERYTHING you buy...then tell me that the war, the banks, and Big Oil (all run by those aforementioned Rich Douchebags) aren't at fault. Your Party HATES you. Don't you get it? You're not like them and they don't want you to be either. They just want your vote so they can continue to exploit you and line their pockets with your Money. So what's worse....giving your money to these douchebags (See - Corporate Tax Cuts/Tax cuts for the wealthy) or giving your money to programs aimed at getting all the children in this country Health Insurance (for example)?
Has America really gotten the fleece pulled over our eyes?
But at least I'm not angry... :-)
Robo--
You may be pissed, but you're right on the money. Whether you subscribe to their rhetoric or not, it's shocking that wealthy, Ivy League-educated fat-cats like Bush and overblown pompous windbags like Limbaugh -- people who have nothing in common with the common man -- have managed to convince so many middle-class Americans that they're on their side. They're exploiting the hell out of the little people, and the latter seems inexplicably to be too dumb to realize it.
Let me guess, you're totally cool with extremely violent video games.
Then, when the same thing that gets social conservatives fired up happens to a progressive, you jump right to the same nonsense conclusions that they did.
I'd really like to hear how you're you're making a different case than Joe Lieberman when he drones on about video games.
A valid point. Actually, although I don't think that the blame for, say, school shootings can be laid entirely at the feet of Marilyn Manson or Grand Theft Auto, can they play a role in influencing a kid? Absolutely, and to think otherwise is bullshit wishful thinking. Once again though, you can't stifle that form of expression just because of the reaction of a few kids -- and I'm not suggesting the same here.
I often wonder whether the right-wingers actually dismantle social services in an attempt to keep a certain faction of the population dumb enough to be manipulated with baseless rhetoric. But I can't quite believe that even the repubs possess that amount of disdain for democracy and lack even the slightest bit of decency, though they seem to be trying hard to convince me otherwise. Is it simply a pleasant side effect of their small government (apart from 'security') ideology? Or do they actually recognize that an uneducated, uninformed and unemployed group of voters will inevitably be easily swayed and controlled by republican noise?
I'm left with little hope for democracy. Only 50% vote as it is and nearly half of those are ignorant enough to vote republican. It's one thing to argue for fiscal conservatism and that is an appropriate counterweight to government bloat but if voters actually took the time to inform themselves only a tiny percentage would have any reason to vote republican. Instead millions will vote for McCain because they have been convinced that Obama is a) Muslim b) a baby killer c) anti-American d) going to take their guns, etc... We can look forward to nearly 45 million irrational votes this November based on lies and misinformation. If that doesn't instill the fear of American "democracy" in you, I don't know what will.
"I often wonder whether the right-wingers actually dismantle social services in an attempt to keep a certain faction of the population dumb enough to be manipulated with baseless rhetoric."
EBS makes solid contact with this statement. I think that is only a piece of the big picture however. A politician's worst nightmare, whether radical or conservative, is an educated and informed electorate.
There are sheep who vote for either party.
That being said, Al Franken has it right: Rush Limbaugh IS a Big Fat Idiot.
Why do you care if a babykilling abortionist gets shot? You hypocrite, you don't care one iota about the thousands of innocent babies that babykilling abortionist murders, you only care when the mass murderer reaps what he sows. I'm glad that babykilling abortionist was shot dead, now he is not killing any more innocent children. He reaped what he sowed.
Genesis 9:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
Normally, I'd just laugh at you Don, because you're an idiot. But since you're obviously sincere in your terrifying conviction that killing a living, breathing human being is the correct remedy for abortion -- and what's worse, to believe this because your non-existent god tells you so through 2000 years of superstitious nonsense -- there's nothing I can say to convince you that you're wrong. Like I said in the piece, we come from completely different worlds.
But now that I think of it, maybe not quite so different: I'll risk negating everything I said in the column by admitting that if you'd given me a gun and told me that I could've acted with impunity, I might've personally put a bullet in Paul Hill's head -- if nothing else just to wipe that smug smirk off his face after killing John Britton and James Barrett.
By the way, fuck off and don't come back here again.
Ebs-
I believe that it is entirely credible that the Republican Party is interested in keeping the general public ignorant enough to support their agenda- simply look at their record re: public education. The Republican plan of providing 'vouchers' for children to attend private school is a perfect example. Its a one-two punch; education is privatized and becomes a business enterprise (and your tax dollars are funnelled into education corporations owned by the very peple who have caused the crisis), and public schools are essentially shut down because funding has been rerouted to pay for the vouchers- and then, when public education has basically collapsed, a decent education will only be available to those who can either afford it or are specifically selected from the masses through a 'lottery'. They will be able to hand select their intelligentsia.
One of the things that has made this country a success for so long is the fact that there has been a standardized education available for all. The system is admittedly flawed, but handing it over to private enterprise is not going to make things better- it is going to widen the already growing gap between the wealthy and everyone else.
The education crisis is happening now, No Child Left Behind was the crushing blow, and if you think for one second it wasn't all part of a master plan, than you're missing the big picture.
Phew, sorry. I received a kick ass public education, and have since watched my school district collapse under federal and state budgeting constraints while politicians promise that private school vouchers will save us all. I get heated on this question.
What makes me sad is the afore mentioned Rev. Don Spitz totally misses the point of his "Religion" lets say for one second I buy into the notion that I need to act right or a man in the sky is going to punish me for not doing what he said, the point of the Christian religion is love, not killing. I am pretty sure Jesus would have a problem with someone taking a gun and putting a bullet in someones head, even if that someone were an abortion doctor, or fucking osama bin laden. I would have less problem with religion of more people would understand what the people who wrote the book were trying too do. But as it stands maybe only a small percentage of Christians actually take the message to heart, so they go in open their wallets and turn off for a few hours so they can get their orders.
Michael --
Thanks for being the voice of reason when I can't.
I find it kind of shocking that there haven't been more comparisons of these two men to suicide bombers. (Maybe I just haven't heard them because I don't own a TV so I miss some of the bombastic statements...) They actually have (in my mind at least) a lot in common: generally undereducated, assured by those that they believe in and trust as deliverers of higher dogma that they are doing the right thing and it will in the long run have the desired affect as well as protecting/providing for others (particularly family members). There's just a certain level of wool-over-eyes and miseducation (if any at all, as Rollerson brought up).
I taught high school in a county in southern Ohio that contributed an unbelievable amount of money to a lot of Republican candidates' campaigns, especially both of W's, and when I turned my students' attention to the rise of fascism in Italy and Germany, we started having conversations about news sources, thinking for yourself, and making informed decisions. They all took to it like fish to water, excited at the prospects of finding holes in arguments they were being indoctrinated into thinking were absolute fact. I was amazed and so proud...until I started getting threatening phone calls from parents, calling me a hippy, a liberal bitch, and (oddly) Nazi. I left the area at the end of that year and never looked back. The dogma is generations deep now, and I'm not sure how to pull the rage and the violence back out.
"these seemingly fascist demagogues"
You absolutely nailed it here. Lately I've been seeing the culmination of the Great American Sellout (as described by George Carlin) and its effects leading to the transformation into a Corporate Fascist Democracy - big business passing their own laws by means of favourable puppets in power, dumbing down future opposition and harassing the present opposition. It won't come down to a V for Vendetta situation, not easily, anyway, but I can easily foresee China and the USA coming to a common form of a corporate-controlled dictatorial government, "by the people and for the people" in name only. There'll be "populist" blowhards (high-ranking party members) beating the sheeple into conformity, and then convincing them that the world is simultaneously jealous of and despising their freedoms, and that immediate action must be taken to export "democracy" on the world stage...
Oh, shit. This isn't the future, this is now. All that's left is a new and improved constitution and you're all set. I for one weep for the loss of the people's America - the world is much poorer (and greater in danger) without it.
It is really truly frightening when you see just how far people will go with this stuff.
I thought that Rev spitz guy had to be joking to say such ridiculous and sick things, but I made the mistake of viewing his profile and then viewing his website. Now I feel physically ill and am trying not to be paranoid and terrified of all the crazies.
Shows how naive I am I guess.
Nice piece! The controlled don't mind being controlled. They feel safe and secure. See Plato's cave. What the hell happened when the guy came back to tell everyone what was outside? Yep, "a bullet in his fucking head!" The world needs one giant collective bong hit.
I'd like nothing more than to believe that kindness, understanding and civil discourse would help build bridges between normal people and the unfettered insanity of those who subscribe to Reverend Don's obscene beliefs.
Unfortunately, centuries of trying has proven that that's not the case. The best we can do is remain on opposite sides of the fence from each other. But since they're not content with that, then the best you can hope for is to push them as far to the fringes as possible or be willing to shoot first when the Eric Rudolphs and Paul Hills of the world decide that their ridiculous god has told them to kill innocent people in the name of their cause.
They're the real terrorists. Treat them as such.
Great piece Chez. Are you really the same guy who's been bashing the mentally challenged for the past two days? (I kid, I kid!)
For an insight into the mindset of Coulter and Co., check out Blinded by the Right, by Media Matters founder and former conservative pundit David Brock. It really reveals the hypocrisy and venom of the conservative elite, from someone who was on the inside. Not the quickest read, I can only take small doses without getting either pissed off or depressed.
Retards.
This reminds me of The Fisher King, but I doubt that Limbaugh, Coulter, Savage Weiner or the like have enough moral fiber to experience the remorse that Jeff Bridges' character did.
...adding that I'm surprised TFK was a Gilliam flick. I was unaware of that, and I'm a huge Gilliam fan.
The sad thing about this is that the "evil liberals" will probably use this incident to try to push for more gun legislation, which will invariably incite rage from "them gun-totin' republican rednecks".
I despise how moronic the people in this country have become. If everybody ditched their party loyalties and just had a fucking opinion of their own, maybe we could get America back on track.
.....Yeah right.
Chez, you make a good argument.
I still distance a bit from it. I think absolute nuts get fanatical about whatever it is they will become fanatical about and will kill and blame this or that.
I know a family who's home, posessions and pets were lost because an eco-terrorirst extreme leftist set fire to the new condos going up next door. A nineteen year old girl was scarred for life because her face was burnt. They are lucky to be alive.
Fanatics are dangerous. I don't think any of these talking head windbags want people killing for their cause. I think it's as simple as this:
Fanatics are fucking dangerous.
Good article. I think there is a book out right now that further high lights this weird difference that has sprung up in the past decade or so where its completely normal to disregard information that conflicts with what you want to believe. The text book term for it is 'cognitive dissonance' (wherein a person holding two conflicting beliefs will either modify an existing one or just reject whatever is contradictory in order to maintain a sort of mental homeostasis). This kind of thinking has become insanely infectious and not just with our friends in the far right. Its become this belief that people have some kind of constitutional (or legally protected) right to never have their world view challenged or never have to suffer listening or reading something that doesn't fit perfectly into their own little ideology. I guess the more important question that I'm getting at is how do we reverse this trend?
Amen see you next tuesday...anyone who has attended a professional sporting event in Philadelphia will agree.
Scott --
Actually, the more appropriate term is "confirmation bias."
Otherwise known as working backward and making sure the "facts" in any argument fit the desired end. It's intellectually dishonest and, yes, done all the time.
I would have less problem with religion of more people would understand what the people who wrote the book were trying too do.
It is interesting: both your observation and Chez's post stem from the same issue; namely, people aren't paying attention. The question then becomes: is it intentional ignorance?
The comparison to the video game violence issue is amazingly apt. In both cases, while we cannot discount the effects of the particular medium on the subject, we also cannot completely place the blame on it as well. After all, million of people are witness to both violent games and dumbass TV; and not everyone become a homicidal maniac.
So maybe, like in the video game discussion, it isn't a case of the pundits are influencing the unknowing masses; instead, it is where the crazed psychos in the masses are attracted to the bile coming from the pundits.
First, nod to Stephen for hilarious Philly sports mention.
Secondly, in terms of right wing talkers, video game playing kids and abortion doctors, it's important to apply the lightning rule, that is statistical examination. Just taking Limbaugh as an example: he is the most listened to talk radio host on the air so his audience is clearly large. We have two instances of violent crimes by people who may have listened to him. Statistically how does this break down?
Chez' argument takes into account that it may not be a single rhetorical source for these actions, but multiple sources argues AGAINST such a factor because then the audience gets larger and the statistical connection smaller.
The school shootings and youth violence being connected to violent video games is even less likely statistically. In fact, the leading cause of death among children is car accident while being shot in school is dead last, just behind being abducted and killed by a stranger, another crime that is given greater relevance than it is due. Tell a parent they are more likely to kill their own children by driving them in the car and listen to the arguments.
This is lengthy, but needs an important summation. Chez touches on the real problem, I think. That is the dissolution of political unity. We are a nation of us and them. Americans and immigrants. Red Sox fans and Yankees fans. Lord of the Rings and Star Wars. Democrats and Republicans. Secular and theocrats. This division festers, and the nabobs, while exploiting it, are merely symptoms. The psychology of the murderer is varied, and it does no good to try to simplify motive, even though the "reason" seems so apparent. A number of circumstances came together in both instances. In the church killings the killer targeted the church his ex-wife went to. In the second the man had just lost his job. Both men had caches of guns in their homes. What is the personality of men who collect guns? By choosing a single justification for their actions do we assume that is the only factor?
We are certainly living in perilous times of disconnected politics, but the good news is that the vast majority of us don't resort to violence. I think, therefore, Chez, that your original impression of these provocateurs is correct. They aren't helpful, but correlation is not causation. Sorry this was so long, but the subject matter seems to demand deliberation.
"So maybe, like in the video game discussion, it isn't a case of the pundits are influencing the unknowing masses; instead, it is where the crazed psychos in the masses are attracted to the bile coming from the pundits."
The problem with any form of media, whether it's games, radio, television, NEWS, or others, is when the consumer forgets that the distributing arm of their chosen media can twist and distort the original message of the author of that media to match their agenda.
What this means is that, in the end, any media you consume has been altered to the perspective of its respective publisher and has been stripped of objectivity, which leaves the burden on the consumer to use their brain (*gasp*) to sort out fact from fiction.
I'd love to be able to ignore people like Limbaugh, but his audience size is truly frightening. Words matter. Just look at what happened in Rwanda. Three media figures actually stood trial before the international genocide tribunal for their role in inciting the 1994 genocide against the Tutsis.
It used to be that when you said something derogatory or insulting, you had to worry about the target of yourself giving you a good shot in the jaw. Nowadays, with this whole "violence in all forms in bad" bullshit we have going on, people learn from an early age that passive-aggressive insults from behind the protection of "free speech" are ok. And what do we get - a society full of marketers, politicians, and soccer moms who all use lies and bad-mouthing as opposed to actual confrontation when they have an issue. It's considered a-ok to destroy someone with snide rumor, as long as they don't have the balls to do it to their face. These radio spastics are the end result of the mouthy little shits of the world getting through school being douchebags without having the natural end result of someone popping them in the mouth.
Let's change things around a little - a system based on lawsuits benefits the wealthy, so slander and libel suits have little use to control this nonsense. And the cowards of the world rely on guns to avoid actually having to risk getting their butts kicked, so we need to create some kind of even playing field - a stage where people can, as we used to say, "settle it in the playground." It may not end this nonsense, but it will make sure that people who can't back up their BS (for example, pill-popping fat boys, senile racists, and anorexic barbie dolls) think twice before they mouth off about someone who might just want a piece back.
Maybe I'm not reading the right blogs, but this is the first to connect the same dots that I have connected on this stuff. And don't forget the liberal targets of Mr. Anthrax (whoever he was).
I have participated in many an online row with hard core red staters, and if they don't stop at calling me gay (married, three kids, but if you're a liberal, you are gay) they start to make dark suggestions on what they'd like to do to me if they ever caught me in a dark alley. Yes, they still think in terms of dark alleys. It's never a mall.
And even though it's always the conservatives threatening violence against the liberals in these flame wars, I have actually seen them start talking about what guns they need to buy in case a liberal should come after them. These people really buy into the whole white male victim sermon that Rush preaches for three hours daily. I'm afraid there will be more of these attacks. I'm terrified that it will be on higher profile liberals than poor Mr. Gwatney.
Based on your original arguement would Al Gore bear some responsibility for the unabombers actions?
He had Gore's book Earth in the Balance in his shack and his manifesto had some basic agreements with Gore's beliefs.
There have been crazys attaching themselves to both sides for some time. Ill believe what your talking about when some right version of the weather underground shows up. Also your initial reaction is no different than when somebody shoots up something and says something leftist and the conservative tinfoil hat crowd goes off on it.
What's that old saying? The best leaders would be philosophers, but no self-respecting philosopher would ever take the job?
I often wonder if the downfall and bias in media that generates idiots on both sides of the political spectrum can be attributed to the advent of faster news - The Internet, Cable News, etc.
Were people this nuts when newspapers were still very much king, and not bound to stockholders?
And to the Rev. from some comments ago - Leave the Theology to the Academic Theologians. They at least can discuss the minefield that is religion intelligently.
One other thing, it's hard not to play the reversal game on this. If there were two incidents with liberals shooting up a conservative church then killing a Republican State official, I can't help but think that FOX would be pinning this to Obama 24/7. He'd be forced to respond to it as if he had anything to do with it. Glenn Beck would be bellowing about martial law against Move On. O'Reilly would blame Michael Moore.
It's almost as if the media shrugs because a conservative shooter is dog bites man.
Although I agree with Chez's point that violent media can and does have at least some impact on youth (particularly when presented without any kind of explanation or supervision), I'm going to have to disagree with any kind of assertion that you can put violent video games on anywhere near the same stage as the kind of rhetoric these guys get away with spouting on a daily basis.
Limbaugh, Coulter and all the rest are real people (as distasteful as that is to admit) who get to put themselves out there as experts and specialists in the world of politics. They present their crazy assertions as the truth and, as Chez said, any attempt to discredit them is either a) portrayed as some kind of liberal conspiracy or b) staged by them in order to lend even more weight to what they have to say. They specialize in propaganda, which means that they want you us to believe everything they have to say and intentionally set out to make us believe even the wildest of their theories. This is active manipulation of the people that are exposed to them. You can't do target something like that, and yes, when you unleash that kind of influence you end up with some really nasty side effects (like nutjobs heading out to kill all these evil dirty liberals).
Video games on the other hand are a passive influence that can be, fairly easily, negated or at the least diminished in impact with just a little adult/rational supervision. I can't think of a single video game that actually came out and said "everything you do here is good. The solution to all of life's problems can be solved with a gun." Even the hyper violent games are just that - games. No one has ever actively tried to pass them off as the absolute truth. Some strive for realism, some try to make political commentary (of a heavy-handed and obvious sort), and some try to sell other products to you (the army games, the BK games, etc).
Even the "Left Behind" games couldn't make the kind of impact that these idiots do with their "news" shows - and thats a limitation of the medium itself. At the end of the day, any rational thinking being can say to himself "it's just a game". With these guys, even if you are capable of independent thought, they anticipate and expect that. They just make sure that the independent thoughts you have are put there by them first.
Sorry, I think that got a little out of hand. I tend to get a little overzealous when I read about more demonization of video games when I really think the blame lies at the feet of those refusing to take personal responsibility for their own actions (including raising your kid not to be a f***ing nutter).
Oh, one last thing, Chez I think you do an amazing job on here. Been reading since about 4 months in, but chances are I won't comment again, so I thought I'd let you know now. Congrats on the new addition to your family, I wish you, Jayne and Inara all the best of luck.
I understand where you're coming from, but I think it's silly to assert that Limbaugh and Co. are responsible for the Tenn. and Ark. shootings.
You are allowed in this country to be stupid. You can suck tons of smoke into your lungs. Drink scotch until your organs are pickled. Exchange body fluids with strangers. In public restrooms. Worship snakes. Or drive Hummers. While talking on your cell phone. And eating.
It's called freedom. You have to have a certain amount of courage to be free, and you got to give your fellow man the same respect you claim for yourself. It seems that the problem, on all sides, is that we are becoming a self-absorbed, whiney people and we give in to the childlike, undisciplined desire to strike out at disagreeable, different people or circumstances or ideas instead of working toward compromise and tolerance.
The mayor of LA is thrilled because the murder rate there is down to an average of 30 per day. It looks like New York will be 41 per day. Chicago . . . also 41 per day. It's open season on human beings in our cities. The two . . . TWO . . . murders you've focused on are clearly the result of deranged minds. Why do you want to piss on Limbaugh's territory and make more of them than that.
Anonymous, where do you get the murder rate of 30 per day? In 2006 there were 480 murders the whole year... seems a little unlikely that it's gone up past 10,000.
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In case you were wondering, the crazy-ass Westboro crack-heads came to protest the man's funeral today. Apparently it is solely because he was a democrat.
He is very much missed here in this state (AR). Mr. Gwatney was a nice and well respected man.
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