Thursday, September 20, 2007

Jena or Bussed

I realize that I'm really spoiling the mood -- and likely validating any argument that could be made against me in reference to my recent personal crisis -- but a good inappropriate comment is a good inappropriate comment.

Today, thousands of protesters descended on the small 19th century town of Jena, Louisiana to march against what they preceive to be the unfair treatment of six black high school students accused in the assault of a white classmate. (Incidentally, you know the 60's-era civil rights movement has run its course when the best it can muster is rushing to the defense of a bunch of little thugs who beat another kid -- even a dumb redneck -- nearly to death; I don't give a damn how racially persecuted they may have felt.) The rally was lead by -- and stop me if you've heard this one before -- professional victims and self-proclaimed men-of-God Jesse Sharpton and Al Jackson.

Here's the thing though: Since most of the protesters live nowhere near Jena, Louisiana, they had to be brought in via a fleet of buses.

So do you think anyone complained about having to sit at the back of the bus?

65 comments:

Richard said...

Oh you just hush yo mouth

Anonymous said...

wait for it.......

wait for it.......

(get to the bottom)

WAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Manny said...

I'm sure they found time to complain while chewing mouthfuls of watermelon and fried chicken. Hay-o!

Lorenzo said...

I hope the buses were stocked with plenty of grape koolaid

Anonymous said...

thats pretty faukn low...even for you.

and newsflash: racism exists in NYC as well. Difference is instead of ropes and trucks, they use pins and phone cals.

Sometimes you come off as enlightened...others as clueless. But always as a malcontent.

Gita said...

Just can't get behind a guy who rolls his hair on curlers every night. Sorry, Al, but there it is.

Matty Boy said...

glad to have you back, chez.

hang in there.

winged unicorn said...

my best friend went to law schol with al sharpton. okay. i said something nice. now can i go back to being myself?

winged unicorn said...

okay, i'm a mom, i have 3 kids....
[god forgive me...]
the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round, the wheels on the bus go round and round all through the town..the kids on the bus beat the crap out of each other, beat the crap out of each other, beat the crap out of each other
shall i continue?

antoinette jeanine said...

That's funny... a Facebook group in support of the Jena 6 claimed that the white kid who was hurt was out partying the same night of the incident.

Who is right? Who can I believe?!

(returns to state of apathy and mistrust of the rest of humankind)

Jim said...

I like pie.

That is to say - what's the huge fucking deal with a bunch of kids fighting? Because one was white and six were black? And if it were the other way around, some asshole would still find a way to protest.

How about someone just protesting the violence in general? Nah - no news angle in that.
Cheers

little girl with big attitude said...

First, hope you are ok.

Second, cheezuz, people, kids beat the crap out of each other all the time. Yes, it's the deep South, yes, they are still racist as hell, and yes, Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton could not even exist without this kind of crap.

Hey, can we send them to Iraq to make peace over there? Let's try that...it's a win/win!!

Robo said...

I was hoping you were going to post something related to this. I didn't think you could pass up a chance at slamming the Good Reverend and the former Presidential Candidate nor did I want you to!

Just because something racial happened in a community doesn't give anyone Black or White the right to take justice in their own hands.

I wonder if the roles were reversed and 6 white kids that beat up a black kid were charged with Attempted Murder if the same level of protests would be happening?
I know I wouldn't feel bad for the attackers but I sure as hell would feel bad for the kid that got the shit kicked out of him (enough so for it be possibly considered an attempted murder).

Everyone's a fucking victim nowadays.

erin_mackay said...

Here in Atlanta I saw a t-shirt that said "Jena, Louisiana is Black America's 9/11." My last shreds of sympathy dissolved in that moment.

Manny said...

Now, if you'll all excuse me, I have to go fry some plantains and stab a convenience store clerk.

britta is an asshole said...

that joke wasn't tastless!
it tasted like chicken........fried chicken, of course!

Anonymous said...

It's funny that many of the folks find it amusing to write quotes using racial undertones. I guess we know who the fairly uneducated people are in this blog. Anyway, if you look at the whole issue, it is about the disparity of justice. I guess Chez forgot to mention that the beating of the young white man was in retaliation to the beating of a young black man previously. Yes, violence should not be tolerated, so why aren't we commenting on the black kid that got beat up first? Not to mention, he got hit in the head with a bottle. Check the record.

Anonymous said...

The absolutely racist and ignorant comments posted shows that this country has not come very far on the racial front.

Let's be clear: the thousands protesting in Jena are NOT supporting the beating of a student. Rather, they are protesting the unequal treatment of the defendants. The basic argument is that if the defendants were white and the victim black, the charges filed would not have been as serious.

If you all weren't so blinded by racism, you'd see that!

Anonymous said...

Most people on here seem to see or read (if they can) what they want. Neither Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson put this march together. One this I know is that only God really judges, so to the people that supposedly have no conscience of right or wrong.....

Anonymous said...

I think this whole thing is has been exasterbated and I think that the black community whats to find someting to protest to keep the cause alive. Yes there are individals in all races that are still biggots but I say that why is ok for anyone to turn to violence? It seems today that grudge is still being held! And I Would like for those who hold this grudge I was not there and there are not very many white alive that were. I am not asking you to sit at the back of the bus, I am not afraid of drinking after you, swimming in the pool after you, I did not hurt you. Don't see the color of my skin and automaticly think that i am a racist or that There is a conspiracy to keep the black community down. Don't judge us by a couple of redneck kids and we won't judge because a few thugs.

Caren said...

Here's a news flash Jim - the huge fucking deal(s) are the NOOSES HANGING FROM THE TREE!

Are you all oblivious to that part? For me, it changes the whole thing.

Lauren said...

So wrong... yet so funny...
On another note, I hope that everything is working itself out.

the sieve said...

Jim: the "huge fucking deal" is that those kids were charged with attempted murder. For a schoolyard fight. You should check out Democracy Now's interview with one of the school board members. It's a classic. He waxes poetic about the good old days when they didn't have racial tensions because them blacks were kept in their place.

Manny: Is that supposed to be funny? Because it isn't.

Chez said...

Really?

I think it's kind of funny -- then again, I'm a dick

Although yes Sieve, I do understand where you're coming from.

the sieve said...

Good to see you back, Chez.

I hope your stuff's working itself out.

Caren said...

I actually feel relieved when you show the world how much of an ass you can be.

Shows you're slowly getting back to yourself.

I'm going to convince myself that's a good thing (wink).

Swami Dearest said...

The unfortunate thing for any issue of substance is that any time the clowns get involved -- Sharpton, Jackson, Nancy Grace, Rosie O'Donnell, you name it -- it cheapens any legitimacy of the subject and turns it into a circus. Regardless of the actual issue, it's my tendency to wave my hand and dismiss the whole noisy lot with a PPHHFFTT!

And I believe the backs of the buses had been removed for this trip. No tomato-lobbing, please.

britta is an asshole said...

the ability to find humor in bad situations is the only thing that makes this world bearable.

then again, i'm an asshole.

don't stop, chez.

RottweilerTOM said...

I am glad you returned, although your personal crisis seemed short-lived. Not unlike the Save the Jena 6 - which should drag out until Rev. Al and Rev. Jackson finds the next spectacle.

It is amazing how black activists condone violence. Just fucking amazing!

Anonymous said...

Welcome back, In fine form I see...
We miss you.

the sieve said...

"I believe the backs of the buses had been removed for this trip."

Now that's funny.

Where's Votar when you need him?

John said...

Chez
You know how some things just are? Sunshine feels nice on bare skin,water tastes great when you are thirsty, and you write this blog.Just thought I would let you know you have to do this.And please comment on AR-50 ricochet- youtube.

namron said...

What are the facts of the particular incident leading to criminal charges, regardless of the continuing events in the community leading to the incident? Six children beat up another child. The beating is more than a schoolyard ruckus but less than a Roman gladiator duel to the death. The victim has injuries consistent with a pretty bad beating but not life threatening or permanent. What criminal charges are appropriate for the juvenile offenders? I dare say that an attempted murder charge is way more than the incident justifies. Did the perps' race have anything to do with the prosecutor's decison to charge them as adults with attempted murder? If the perps had been white would they have been chaged as adults with attempted murder? If the answer to the former is "yes" and if the answer to the latter is "no," then there is a basis for a public protest of the improper application of justice in Jena LA.
From the information available, the "Jena 6" are nasty little, low IQ thugs with prior criminal records. The prosecutor should have charged them with battery or ag battery, even if as adults, and then let the court consider the provocation and the previous criminal records after a conviction when determining a proper sentence.

Vermillion said...

Fuck you, Chez.

I get why you don't like Sharpton or Jackson. I can't stand them either. And if this was anything else, I would be laughing, trust me. If this was OJ, I would be bashing alongside you. And I am sure I will be laughing at your antics later.

But not this. My goddamn family went down there. My mother and father and sister. With no way for me to contact them until they got home. There were people riding around in trucks with nooses swaying from the back. I don't care what color anyone is in that scenario, that isn't right. I may not understand what all is going on down there, but it is a lot more serious to me for just that fact.

That isn't fucking funny to me.

So fuck you.

VOTAR said...

Back when I was in high school (this was in the 80's) a few friends and I went to a junior varsity football game at another high school. We were only there because another mutual friend was playing that night and, more than anything else, we went out to yell at him and make him drop the ball. This was junior varsity after all, no one gave a damn anyway.

The game was at the opposing school's field.

Wait for it...

Martin Luther King High School, in Tampa.

On our way out to the parking lot after the game (that our team lost, incidentally), my friends and I were slowly surrounded by a crowd of people from that school. Are any of you so dense that I need to describe this crowd in any greater detail? Okay, good.

The taunting began. The taunts gave way to jeers, then threats. Then objects began flying into our midst. Trash, rocks, a metal garbage can at one point, whatever wasn't tied down. You all remember those Samsonite commercials where they give a caged gorilla a suitcase to destroy? Minus the cage. It was no longer about being from a rival school (remember, this was a JUNIOR varsity game!). We were white, and we were outnumbered.

Finally, in the parking lot, the indiscriminate beating began. A friend of mine was knocked out cold with a concussion; I faired a bit better but the incident is vague now, except I do remember getting into a friend's truck and urging him to run over as many of them as we could with his vehicle on our way out. Within minutes there was a sheriff on the scene (because, we were told later, a sheriff was ALWAYS necessary at any hour on this particular campus...gee, I wonder why?)

Our anonymous friend will be crestfallen to learn that I am not only college educated, I am in fact a college professor, and a practicing professional in my community. I can, in fact read. And hey, I can also do simple math. Six thugs beat one kid. Six. On one. And anyone with anything resembling dignity can rise in defense of these pathetic shit-stains?

White intolerance persists because we are all frankly tired of this. We are tired of the O.J. apologists. We are tired of the professional victims who are doing more incalculable harm to the reputation of the black "race" than if they'd just shut the fuck up. We're tired of the false mantle of political correctness that costs comedians their careers because someone who didn't even hear their jokes happens to have stringy hair. We're tired of a vaudevillian rap culture that celebrates violence, rape, animal torture, and murder, which seeks out the most outrageous ways to set itself apart from civilized society and then complains with outstretched palms for "reparation" when civilized society reacts with well-deserved disgust.

I work downstairs from a colleague in my profession who is African-American, also a professor, and one of the nicest, well-spoken, and professional people I know. He went to college, got a license, started his own business. He doesn't have to earn my respect, it's already automatic.

The niggers who attacked me and my friends that night were animals, which is an insult to animals. I'd wish them all dead if I weren't confident that most of them already are by now, or in prison. Either way I'd be quite satisfied to know that they are no longer free to wreak their sub-human idea of "400 year old justice" on me and my whitey pals, although I guess at this point they're having the last laugh, since their filthy nappy-headed spawn are fucking up my chicken nugget orders at BK.

Manny said...

Bite me, sieve.

Chez said...

Vermillion --

You know I like you, really. Please keep in mind, I have no problem with A) standing up for what you believe in, and B) standing against racism. My issue has always been with blind adherence to the idea that because someone is a member of your particular race or ethnicity, that person can do no wrong. I've seen several examples of this in my lifetime: the absurd defense of OJ Simpson by many in the black community -- despite his being pure fucking sociopathic evil; the response of otherwise intelligent and rational Cuban-Americans in South Florida to the Elian controversy.

These six kids probably shouldn't be charged with attempted murder -- no doubt about it. But likewise no one should give them a pass because the little terrors felt persecuted; beating tolerance into a stupid white kid is as ridiculous an idea as it sounds.

As for Sharpton and Jackson -- I've written about them before; right now though, I'll refer to the very smart comments of Jason Whitlock of the Kansas City Star. After the whole Imus inanity, Whitlock wrote and stated publicly that the 60s civil rights paradigm still pushed by the likes of Al and Jesse is pretty much over. At this stage of the "fight," these two do more harm than good; they simply make a bad situation much, much worse. At this point, they're nothing more than caricatures -- guys who are so obviously in it more for their own glory than for the social justice they purport to stand for.

Once again though Vermillion -- I say this with all due respect. Thanks for the comment.

Vermillion said...

Sorry about that, I got a little hotheaded. But thanks for the respectful reply.

As I said, I normally would laugh right along with you. A lot of the 'issues' supposedly affecting black America (what is that, anyway?) are bullshit. Hell, I even bitched about OJ's latest stupidity even being news. But as I am sure you understand, I can't laugh when my family is involved in something a lot of folks take super seriously.

Unfortunately, like you said, Jackson and Sharpton hurt the credibility of the whole thing by even showing up and making it all about race. And I agree that the 'Jena 6' aren't martyrs or angels or deserve to be let off scot-free. But the stuff I am hearing isn't kosher on either end of the spectrum, and as you have said before, the modern media tends to not always aim for factual accuracy.

I can only go on what info is presented to me, and that info I do have freaks me the hell out. Something shady is going on down there, and I am just glad my folks aren't there anymore. I guess I am a bit more sensitive about them than I thought.

By the way, I did reveal the black community's little secret about that whole OJ thing, but you probably knew it already.

And so you don't think I suddenly lost my sense of crass humor:

votar, rule number one: anything named after a nonviolent figure, some violence is gonna go down on it or near it. Especially King. Trust me, if it wasn't you, it was gonna be someone else. You were just easier to see in the dark.

Aaaaaaand....

Goddamit, Manny, ya lazy 'Rican bastard! Get back to your own damn blog and post something new! We get it now: nobody wants to give you a job! What are you doing, roaming the country bouncing on inflatable castles and such? Do I have to get Rosie Perez on your ass again?

Chez said...

Votar --

I'll assume you're speaking in a Chris Rock sort of way.

Chez said...

Manny's hanging out outside of the Home Depot at the corner of Sunset and the 101.

Just beware of Lou Dobbs.

Anonymous said...

haha

the sieve said...

Come on, Manny. I've read your blog, I know you can do better than that.

Votar: That's a horrible story. It must have been terrifying. However, you're painting an awful lot of people with a very broad brush as a result. You sound as though you think there aren't any white pieces of shit in the world.

Chez: I totally see your point. I should mention I'm a Canadian, so I'm observing all this as an outsider. We don't have nearly as many black people as you do in the U.S., nor do we have the history you do with them.

However, we do know a thing or two about being expected to right the wrongs of the past. In Canada, it's the Indians (our politically correct term is First Nations) who feel they're still owed reparations for grievances past.

But the concessions they are granted is, in my opinion, perpetuating the problem. They get reservations where they enjoy hunting and fishing rights no one else has, they are exempt from taxes, they get free university tuition, guaranteed welfare cheques, the works. Basically, the government holds their hands through life. It's almost a well-intentioned version of apartheid. And it's keeping them down, because their existence is defined by their race.

From what I can see, it's the same in the U.S. You all are obsessed about race. It's the defining aspect of all your interactions. There are the white people who feel guilty, and the white people who have had enough. And that's what leads to the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of the world.

Where am I going with this? I don't know. I know I'm oversimplifying, but I think black people need to realize they are no longer enslaved, and white people need to stop holding their resentment against them. Both sides need to give a little.

As for the so-called Jena 6, yeah, they are despicable thugs. But their treatment really does smack of racism. There's more to it than six guys beat up one guy. Keep in mind it all started because a black kid wanted to sit under a tree in the the schoolyard that was unofficially for whites only.

Catherine said...

I'm just going to get to the point .....


I love you.

That is all.

Teslarawks said...

Doncha just hate slow news days.. oj I mean ok doncha just hate the news media....

Dr. Sherlock House said...

I'm so glad someone in one of these blog comments brought out my favorite racial slur: "Well Spoken". Also recognizable in its other form, "Articulate", this phrase is truly one of the greatest back handed compliments in existence today. "Hate black people? No siree Bob. Not ME! Why, I have black friends. Lots of them. And I sure love that Chris Rock. He's so well spoken. I like them coloreds when they're well spoken."

Thank God football season is back so I can hear my other favorites when they refer to the "Athleticism" of a black quarterback.

charly gordon said...

glad to see you back, chez, and as opinionated as ever

but...

like the man said, of COURSE you are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts

the victim was NOT "beaten almost to death." he was treated at the local hospital and released within hours. in fact, he attended a school dance that same evening. hardly the behavior of someone who was at death's door earlier that day.

here are the facts, as i've been able to ascertain from media reports:

a "tree of knowledge" is planted on the school grounds and eventually becomes a gathering place for kids who want to sit in the shade. not all the kids -- white kids only.

a black student stands up and complains about this during a q&a session at a school assembly. the school administration says "that's terrible, we won't allow it, anyone can sit under that tree," blah blah blah.

the next day, nooses are found hanging in the tree.

please keep in mind that this is the rural deep south. the message here is unambiguous.

the white kids who hung the nooses are identified and hit with in-school suspensions.

one of the black kids who's agitating about the tree is jumped and beaten by a group of white kids. the perpetrators are charged with misdemeanor assault. i don't have the time to look up the outcome of the case, but the fact is that they are charged with a misdmeanor.

in retaliation, one of the white kids involved in that beating is himself jumped and beaten up by a group of black kids.

during the investigation of that incident, the district attorney calla a meeting with the black students at the school and, in what was apparently a heavy-handed attempt to get someone to drop a dime, tells them to "remember, i can effectively end all of your lives with the stroke of a pen."

perpetrators are arrested and charged with felony attempted murder. one of them is charged and tried as an adult, in clear violation of state law.

the charges are later reduced in response to the first rumblings of outrage from outside Jena. but they're still felony charges.

the first kid who comes to trial is convicted; his conviction is overturned, due to the fact that he was tried as an adult for an incident that occurred when he was 16.

despite the fact this his conviction has been overturned, he remains in jail, without bail, as the local authorities prepare their appeal of that decision.

so...please try to take jackson and sharpton out of the equation. they have finally revealed themselves to all as the clowns who run like hell to get to the head of the march long after it has already begun.

because the fact is that the outrage over this has been building at the grassroots level for about a year now. those two race-baiters showed up very, very late in the game.

i don't see how anyone can see this in terms of "political correctness." this is about the grossly uneven application of criminal justice in the rural deep south, based on nothing other than...

wait for it...

race.

the district attorney in Jena now finds himself in the same position as the DA in the duke lacross rape case. it was a gross abuse of prosecutorial power, and it's probably going to cost him his job.

namron said...

Sherlock:

When the opposite dominates music,entertainment,and crime reporting, "articulate" and "well spoken" are proper definitional terms.

VOTAR said...

Fascinating. Now even heartfelt compliments are racial slurs. And the cycle of voluntary self-victimization continues.

The world is completely upside down. It's become like complimenting a woman when she looks pretty in her new dress: "what, you mean I didn't look good enough before?" We're being set up to lose no matter what anyone says or does, by a culture of martyrism and antagonism. Why shouldn't stupid piece of shit white kids continue to hang spooky rope nooses on tree limbs? No expression of friendship or admiration is every going to be regarded as anything other than a "back handed racial slur" anyway. Right? The scare tactics appear to still be working, because the professional victims continue to allow them to.

My colleague in the office upstairs is, frankly, well spoken, as anyone would have to be to succeed in my line of work. Should I lie and say he stutters or babbles at me in ebonics? Should I avoid the transgression of a "back handed racial slur" and falsely portray his mannerisms as inarticulate and primitive? I spent that entire paragraph describing this man's achievements, having studied and worked to overcome all the apparent prejudices against him, and held him up as an example of professional and ethical success. And this, somehow, does not actually prove the point that anyone of any ethnicity CAN be civilized, it is, in fact, somehow an insult?

If you don't get what I was trying to illustrate, it's VERY easy to see it's polar opposite: just turn on MTV at any given hour, and look at the embarrassment that "black culture" has become. Illiterate apes with platinum teeth, polishing guns and pouring malt liquor on the fat asses of whores. Come here to Miami for the "Urban" Memorial Day Weekend and see for yourself that this isn't just a fabrication of the media. By all means, continue to strive toward THAT as the pinnacle of American race relations. If you can find an articulate human among them, better just keep it to yourself. Wouldn't want to insult anyone.

antoinette jeanine said...

Charly Gordon-

Thank you for the facts!

The facts, unfortunately, don't make this story any less convoluted and difficult, though. There is no easily defined righteous side- they're all ignorant, bigoted kids (like the ones I went to high school with in South Carolina). Race relations in the South won't even come close to improving until an earnest attempt to overhaul and upgrade its pathetic education system is enacted, so that kids like these can learn from people less prejudiced than their parents.

Sharpton and Jackson, as far as I know, aren't advocating anything approximating that kind of approach to correcting injustice- they just want attention and ass-kissing.

Vermillion said...

Votar, I have to warn you. You are letting them win. Your frustration is what the professional victim wants. He wants you to say things in anger that he can twist around. Like "illiterate apes", to give an example.

You already made yourself clear. You know that not all black people are like the ones you encountered at that game or in Miami. Don't let them piss you off and obfuscate things.

Unfortunately, the reason such compliments get that reaction is simple: those of us that are articulate and such are furious that, despite all the work and sacrifice, we are still considered an exception instead of the rule. It is infuriating that it is even necessary to say it. It should be a default. You are simply the closest and most obvious target of that anger. It isn't right or fair, I know. I can't really say anything else than that.

choenbone said...

PUSH THE FUCKING BUTTON ALREADY! KAPOW....no more problem.

VOTAR said...

Vermillion, rest assured my tongue is always planted firmly in cheek around here. I was, after all, born a poor black child. I subsequently joined the circus and made my fortune with the invention of the Opti-grab...but that's a story for another time.

Charly, although I haven't done meticulous research, I did watch (most of) the CNN special report, which seemed to me a fairly even-handed dissection of the events in Jena over the past year, and at least an honest attempt to let the residents there tell us their story. The whole time I was watching, I just kept shrugging and asking "what's new about this?" A small community in the American south only one generation beyond desegregation has some lingering racial tensions, and some stupid kids did some stupid things. Okay. And?

I don't buy for a millisecond that kid's story that he and his goody-two-shoe chums "just wanted to be more integrated." Some black kids went to do some territorial pissing under the "white tree." Same kind of shit we all grew up with. High schools have cliques, and one does not venture lightly from one into the midst of another. This may be unfortunate, but it is universal. Then a few skinny little clowns get stoned (or high on homegrown meth, considering the locale) and in between nightly sessions of Dungeons and Dragons, hang some rope from the tree?

At this point the situation could have been handily diffused with an intense school-wide sensitivity training course. End of story before it even gets started. I mean, seriously, all this over who gets to stand under a fucking tree?

I concede that the incident involving the white kid at the convenience store grabbing his gun was handled poorly. But I also took note of the description of the six-on-one attack (since I can relate), and sorry to disappoint but I whole-heartedly believe when you continue to kick an unconscious non-combatant, that's nothing else but indiscriminate "wilding" that has no purpose but to maximize injury, and the probability of death. I'm no lawyer, but I'm very comfortable with the charges that have been leveled at them. That's attempted murder, and six pairs of stomping Air Jordans to the skull is conspiracy to commit. That may seem like a stretch, but we'd all be having a very different discussion if the loud-mouthed dumbass white kid had actually died.

Disparity between white punishment and black punishment is an issue for the courts to correct, or for the ACLU and other legal rights advocates to take up with. Instead we have this buffoonery, the Sharpton Jackson Tour Across America.

All of this seems to have grown out of a pattern of failure on the part of everyone involved, to heed three words of profound advice I once learned from a very wise man...







"Just walk away."





;)

Dr. Sherlock House said...

Heartfelt compliments? How often when describing your white friends do you feel the need to add, "Oh, but he's well spoken."? Fact is...terms like Well Spoken, Articulate, and the pro sport's Athleticism are ways for the white culture to alleviate themselves of any bigotry when describing the successes of a black person. They are terms that mean this..."Most of them are sub par human beings, but the FEW that aren't deserve to be labled as "Well Spoken" or "Articulate". It reminds me of the George Carlin routine where he examines the phrase "Happens To Be". "I've got this friend, who HAPPENS TO BE black.". It's terms like these, that caucasions feel remove them from their overly bigoted ancestors. Why can't it just be a black person who's either a douche bag or not. Just like white folks. I go out in SOuth Florida every weekend and encounter frightenly large numbers of douche bags. And guess what. They "happen to be" WHITE.

Chez said...

Votar --

It's "Same kind of shit WITH WHICH we all grew up."

Puto.

richard said...

I liked the Dungeons and Dragons reference.

Prophet of ra said...

Well I suppose this answers the age old question:

What do your readers care about most?

Racism and Harry Potter

Karl and Mia said...

Sieve, I dig your analogy of the Indians. But I grew up on the White Earth rez in Northern Minnesota (Anishinaabe), and every state I visit I make a point of attempting to visit other reservations to learn as much as I can about other Nations. What I see is like walking through 3rd world countries. It's not like they are doing well. Sure the casinos help now, but it doesn't change the fact that their genetic makeup cannot handle the processed foods of the 20th century and that 50% of the population of 2 million Indians suffer from Diabetes. They cannot grow the food that fits their lifestyle because of the fact that they have all been moved to land that is barren or not suitable for growing the crops their bodies need.

And speaking of Indians, had this incident happened in Northern Minnesota I guarantee you wouldn't have heard about it. In light of the upcoming "holiday" I'd like to point out to the African Americans that they've got it pretty darn good when it comes to comparing to the Native plight. The Indians were decimated and close to being wiped out altogether. Still only around 2 million remain. How pathetic is that?

I also wonder how this would have played out if it had been Blacks and Hispanics especially Mexicans. Again I feel that it would not have been as newsworthy.

What I really would have liked to have seen is Boys against Girls. I think that would have been a cool story. Especially if the Girls were the ones who kicked the shit out of the Boys.

the sieve said...

karl and mia,

Re-reading my comment, I guess it does sound like I think Indians have everything taken care of for them. That isn't what I meant, so allow me to clarify.

The predicaments of First Nations in Canada and black people in the U.S. are entirely different. I get that. But I think there are similarities, particularly in the tendency to view themselves through the lens of past injustices.

There is no doubt shitty things were done (and continue to be done) to both groups - horribly shitty things. And I don't want to be the privileged white guy who just says "get over it." But constantly dwelling on the past doesn't do anyone any good.

Also, I think the ham-fisted attempts of both governments to set things right ultimately makes them worse. It reinforces racial divisions and gives bigots ammo.

Jay said...

Can't we all just get along and make fun of retards and deformed people?

Jay said...

Can't we all just get along and make fun of retards and deformed people?

doctor robert ibach said...

jay, you're totally out of line. retards and deformed people don't put up enough of a fight to make it interesting.

Caren said...

I think you just did...

I think you just did...

TK said...

Dude, you know I love ya, and you know I love off-color humor... but this one - nope. Sorry. I see why people find it funny, but I can't support it. I think that usually your commentary, while scathing, has a purpose behind it. But this time I think you're diminishing something important and frightening. This isn't people overreacting; this is a very real instance of racism. So I'm on the other side of the line with Vermillion.

Anyway. Hope you're doing well nonetheless.

Chez said...

Sorry man -- obviously you know I respect your opinion. I suppose I was channeling my inner-Lampanelli.

Natalia said...

I smell tortillas and cuervo...

...Manny's been around, huh?

Ay dios mio.


(I can say these words because me and my people own them. But start talking about how my dad and the Rio Grande and I'll beat your gringo ass with a tamale.)

(No, I won't. I'll probably laugh. He's not even Mexican. He's Guatemalan. But, what's the diff, right?)